What Will Be The Difference In Our Lives If We Dont Believe In God?

[uls]

so paano yun mga namamatay palang sa sinapupunan ng ina yun sanggol?

paano yung mga conjoined twins?

paano yung mga premature?

paano yung mga na-abort?

paano...

that's what happens when you think there's some COSMIC DIRECTOR running the show

you tend to ask questions like that

you think someone's watching, guiding

you think someone's planning, directing

why is there so much suffering in the world?

baket ganito? baket ganyan?

baket nagka-cancer ako? baket naaksidente ako? baket di nalang nangyari sa ibang tao?

dami namatay sa earthquake/tsunami sa japan. baket? galit ba si God sa mga hapon? ano plano ni God?

indoctrination makes you think that way

but if you believe in randomness... no God, no design, no plan, you wouldnt ask questions like that

things just happen

it's a dynamic planet

it's a dynamic universe

cells divide. sometimes they make mistakes

tectonic plates move

asteroids crash into planets

stars get pulled into black holes

there's no plan or goal

nobody's directing the show

[Monseratto]

“Everything Happens for a Reason” — The Sudanese Thinker

“Everything Happens for a Reason”

by Drima on May 29, 2009

Almost every day, I hear people uttering a phrase that I can’t help but grit my teeth to: “Everything Happens for a Reason.”

We use it to console ourselves when something goes wrong. Almost like an automatic cooling mechanism that kicks in on an overheating nuclear reactor.

We use it to philosophize our life’s circumstances. And in many cases, it’s the only thing left for us to hold on to (or so we think).

But - regardless of whether you believe in the concept of religion - could this yearning for a higher purpose to everything we do be nothing more than a comfortable illusion?

First of all, let’s identify which definition of ‘reason’ we’re referring to.

If you define reason through a simple cause-and-effect model (such as if you work hard, you’ll reap the results), then everyone can pretty much agree that everything does without a doubt happen for a reason.

The other model, however, is the one I have problems with:

The belief that everything that happens is just a small puzzle piece of a higher power’s master plan.

i.e. if you get in an accident and lose your leg, it’s actually because god planned this for you, and he wants you to learn something from it.

I ask you this question in a tone as inoffensive as I can muster: Don’t you think the latter model is just a tad presumptuous and self indulgent for us as mere mortals to hold on to?

If there is a god out there, I find it hard to believe that he’d micro manage the destiny of every single person, animal and inanimate object on the planet.

It’s easier to believe that he just made us, and put us on autopilot, leaving us to figure things out for ourselves.

In fact, it makes a lot more sense.

If you lose your leg in an accident, it could be because you were careless. Or because another driver was careless. Or because your car malfunctioned.

It could be all of these things, or it could be none of these things. Billions of tiny, seemingly insignificant variables work in unison to determine our fate.

Even something as small as leaving your house 5 minutes late because you forgot your keys could snowball into a monumental occasion, like meeting the love or your life, or yes, losing your leg in an accident.

The question is, why do so many of us invariably end up attributing these variables to the machinations of a higher power?

By our very nature, we struggle to find meaning and purpose in everything, often where there is none.

This may be an extreme example, but some of us worship pieces of toast that bear a passing resemblance to Christ.

But out of the billions of pieces of bread that have been made since the beginning of time, doesn’t it make sense that one of them will eventually end up looking like a bearded man?

Some of us witness extraordinary occurrences like people recovering from cancer, and we call it a miracle or an act of god.

But once again, out of the millions of people suffering from cancer, isn’t it just nothing more than a statistical inevitability that some will survive the disease?

I’m not suggesting you give up your religious beliefs, if any. I’m merely suggesting that we stop looking for reason where there is none, and embrace the freedom that lies within the randomness of reality.

Because ultimately, life is what you make of it.

[uls]

i don't know about other people

but i find randomness liberating

frees me from so many questions

[Monseratto]

i don't know about other people

but i find randomness liberating

frees me from so many questions

Sh*t just happens...no need to go looking in the all-knowing bible to find an explanation.

[ess]

*ess
so paano yun mga namamatay palang sa sinapupunan ng ina yun sanggol?

walang plan si God sa kanila kaya binawian na agad ng buhay pero nasa heaven sila?

Aba oo! May plano si God sa kanya. Plano niyang mamatay yung sanggol para derecho sa heaven as a Cherub. Diba pag sanggol daw ang namatay nagiging Cherub? Siguro mataas na ang turnover rate ng mga Cherub sa Heaven kaya kailangan ng bagong recruit.

It's true! Google it!

sabi ng mga kakilala kong protestant at sagradong katoliko, "i cannot question God", "i cannot lose my faith in Him because all problems and challenges in life is God's will" pero i don't buy it talaga, hindi ko makuha yun logic ng mga sinasabi nila

Lahat ng barkada ng misis ko ganon. Pag nagre-reunion sila parang nasasakal ako.
One time, habang kumakain kami, yung isang barkada ng misis ko nagkwento na na carjack daw yung sasakyan nila.
Sabu nung isang kabarkada ng misis ko, "THAT's good news! Ibig sabihin non bibigyan ka ng Diyos ng bagong sasakyan!"
Anak ng tipaklong!
Tapos after nung lunch na yon nag thanksgiving prayer pa for the soon to come new car.

FYI Since elementary to HS i studied from a protestant school (Hope Christian) and DLSU when i was in college. so kahit papano may idea ako sa mga sinasabi nila. hindi lang siguro ako na convince na maniwala.

Same here.

Talagang kanya kanyang opinion at paniniwala lang talaga tayo hehehe. Nanyari lang naMas marami lang akong tanong sa god o religion

Yep. To each his own. Ang problema, some people, gusto nila i-convert ang mga tao para kumalat ang belief nila. (NOTE: To them, the the word "convert" / "conversion" translates to "save" / "salvation".

[Ry_Tower]

^ bro hinay lang, iba kulto sa relihiyon ha. At hindi lahat ng "devout" ganyan mag-isip. Avoid generalization as much as possible.

[ess]

^ bro hinay lang, iba kulto sa relihiyon ha. At hindi lahat ng "devout" ganyan mag-isip. Avoid generalization as much as possible.

Thanks. I edited my post.

[uls]

science is more fun

[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQBzdcFkB7w[/ame]

Cosmic Log - Milky Way galaxy re-created

How long does it take to simulate the Milky Way? The answer is about nine months, if you're using a powerful supercomputer. That's how long it took for researchers at the University of California at Santa Cruz and the Institute for Theoretical Physics in Zurich to produce the first simulation of galaxy formation that approximates the look of our own Milky Way spiral.

"Previous efforts to form a massive disk galaxy like the Milky Way had failed, because the simulated galaxies ended up with huge central bulges compared to the size of the disk," Javiera Guedes said today in a news release about the project.

Guedes worked on the project during her time at UC-Santa Cruz, and is now a postdoctoral researcher at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. She's the first author of a paper accepted for publication in the Astrophysical Journal that describes the simulation, known as the Eris galaxy.

For 20 years, astronomers have been trying to come up with a simulated galaxy that comes close to the look of the Milky Way and other spiral galaxies — but fell short of the mark. Guedes and her colleagues were more successful in part because of the computer firepower at their disposal: 1.4 million processor-hours on NASA's Pleiades supercomputer, plus additional supporting simulations at UC-Santa Cruz and the Swiss National Supercomputing Center.

"We took some risk spending a huge amount of supercomputer time to simulate a single galaxy with extra-high resolution," said UC-Santa Cruz astronomer Piero Madau, one of the paper's co-authors.

The effort used a software platform known as Gasoline to trace the motions of more than 60 million particles, representing galactic gas as well as dark matter, over the course of more than 13 billion years.

Madau said developing a realistic simulation of star formation was another key to Eris' success.

"Star formation in real galaxies occurs in a clustered fashion, and to reproduce that out of a cosmological simulation is hard," he said. "This is the first simulation that is able to resolve the high-density clouds of gas where star formation occurs, and the result is a Milky Way type of galaxy with a small bulge and a big disk."

The recipe for the Eris galaxy limited star formation to the high-density regions of the galactic disk, which resulted in a more realistic distribution of stars. Within the high-density regions, supernova explosions powered an outflow of gas from the inner part of the galaxy, keeping the central bulge from getting too big.

The point of the exercise wasn't merely to come up with a pretty animation. The virtual conditions for Eris' creation are consistent with the theory that galaxy-scale structures coalesced from cosmic webs that were dominated by cold dark matter. Gravity drew primordial clumps of dark matter together into bigger clumps, and the "ordinary" matter that makes up stars and galaxies fell into those dark-matter clumps — giving rise to visible galaxies embedded in halos of invisible dark matter.

Cosmologists contend that the universe consists of 4.6 percent ordinary matter, 23.3 percent dark matter and 72.1 percent dark energy. But the fact that astronomers found it difficult to produce galaxies like the Milky Way using that formula led some to question the prevailing cosmological model of the universe. The Eris galaxy simulation "shows that the cold dark matter scenario, where dark matter provides the scaffolding for galaxy formation, is able to generate realistic disk-dominated galaxies," Madau said.

The research team's effort may be a tour de force for supercomputing, but don't confuse the virtual Eris with the real-life Milky Way. Even though Eris is an incredibly high-resolution simulation, its 60 million particles of gas and dark matter pale in comparison with the Milky Way's hundreds of billions of stars.

[Gerbo]

Randomness may be liberating.

But a lot of people looks for some meaning in life.

Some may find that meaning in religion.

In religion, there is a diety. A supreme being. A God.

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To answer the question, the difference lies in you. Nobody can impose it unto you. You may or may not believe in God. And it may or may not make in difference. Depends in your OWN perspective.

[Ry_Tower]

Ako naiisip ko lang, papano kung may mokong na gusto lang gawing trip yung pumatay ng tao. Reason niya wala naman afterlife di ba? NO consequence sa aksyon, tapos yung mga batas eh gawa din lang ng tao, pareho lang naman kami, so dapat hindi ako ikulong.

Most would say dapat may respect and order kasi sa lipunan para smooth ang takbo ng bagay-bagay. Sasabat si mokong na, "eh gusto ko random trip lang eh, ano bawal dun, sino ka para magsabi sa akin na bawal, pareho lang tayo ng libel? Weird, pero may punto siya.

Ako kung wala lang ako relihiyon, matagal nanag madami pinatay ko, umpisahan ko na sa mga kurakot na tao!