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  1. Join Date
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    #11
    in demand ba kamo skilled workers?

    paki sabi dyan sa mga kano na yan at sa mga chinese construction companies dito na kuripot magpasweldo na yun mga skilled workers na hinahanap nila eh nandun na sa Middle East nagwewelding sa mga world class structures nila going as far as the ocean drilling oil, working with ships tankers etc...kumikita ng maganda at hindi nagpapaalipin dito sa mga kumpanya dito na tubong lugaw magpasweldo.

    nagalisan na sila dahil kuripot dito kaya dun nyo hanapin mga skilled workers natin!

    gok-u!

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    There's a lot to be said about the hands-on skills of vocational/self-trained folks. I have a lot of admiration for them.

    I remember when I was taking up mechanical engineering over there. I was visiting my uncle (through marriage to one of my aunts). He was a jeepney driver and owned a couple of jeeps. We had a little chat:

    Uncle: So, you're taking mechanical engineering?
    Me: Yup.
    Uncle: Mechanical engineering.....Hmmmm. Are you good?
    Me: Yes, sir
    Uncle: Ok. Go fix my jeep. Tulong.....Go!
    Me: Fix..... The..... Jeep?..... Ummmm. Huh?
    Uncle: Mechanical Engineer........Shiiiiiiii*. Come here, I'll show you mechanical.
    Me: I'm scratching my head and smiling sheepishly like an idiot

    My uncle always was a smarta**. But, I admired his skills. He laid out a good one on me that day.
    Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; April 29th, 2008 at 03:55 PM.

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    #13
    i saw a japanese ad for spot welders/advanced welding technicians (ship building) the salary is at most 3000 yen per hour (lowest is half of that for non-experienced) especially at peak times. they hire brazilians, chines, pinoys, etc with certification. you can also enter as a trainee but the salary is of course lower, but you can take the certification after studying. I know some pinoy and indian IT/engineers taking these jobs, madali kasi ang pera, makakaipon agad at makakauwi ng maaga sa bansa. Afaik, they also offer visa extension. Ang problema lang marami na din kasing lokong job brokers eh.

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    What I meant was that our (mostly/public) high school grads are so much behind. After HS ang proficiency ng grad natin ay nasa grade 6-1st year pa lang ng nararapat. Kaya kung yung vocational 6 month course lang ang aasahan, malabo.

    What works in a lot of instances is a kind of apprenticeship program -- doon, kahit hindi tapos ng HS basta literate, puwedeng gumaling -- minsan nga kahit hindi literate. O kaya vocational THEN apprenticeship pa. Ang problema, matagal tagal din yun.

    My .02.

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    #15
    ako nga sa business ko I always make sure na i learn the skill first before my emps

    dami biz owners ngaun pretend kaya hindi nirerespeto ng subs nila kasi nga nagkukunwari

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    #16
    Quote Originally Posted by pup2 View Post
    What I meant was that our (mostly/public) high school grads are so much behind. After HS ang proficiency ng grad natin ay nasa grade 6-1st year pa lang ng nararapat. Kaya kung yung vocational 6 month course lang ang aasahan, malabo.

    What works in a lot of instances is a kind of apprenticeship program -- doon, kahit hindi tapos ng HS basta literate, puwedeng gumaling -- minsan nga kahit hindi literate. O kaya vocational THEN apprenticeship pa. Ang problema, matagal tagal din yun.

    My .02.
    yes, ung friend ko na gustong mag masteral sa ibang bansa, sabi sa akin kulang ang taon natin sa pag-aaral. kaya hindi siya qualified sa ibang schools sa US. dapat ay 7 years of elementary and 5 years of HS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A121 View Post
    yes, ung friend ko na gustong mag masteral sa ibang bansa, sabi sa akin kulang ang taon natin sa pag-aaral. kaya hindi siya qualified sa ibang schools sa US. dapat ay 7 years of elementary and 5 years of HS.

    Ganun?

    kasi barkada ko M.A. degree holder sa UST and na-admit sa PhD prgram sa Osaka University with scholarship pa.

    barkada kong isa M.A. sa UP. natanggap sa graduate program sa Manchester Metropolitan University sa United Kingdom.

    Yung isa, fellow sa UCLA pero dito nakatapos.


    Mga grad ng ADMU, UP, DLSU at UST accepted sa US ang transcript so puedeng magpursue ng graduate studies. Australia, New Zealand at ASEAN tumatangap ng graduate dito PInas...
    Anyway...baka iba circumstances nya.

    Pero pagkaintindi ko depende sa qualification mo not necessary na deficient ang educational system natin...
    Last edited by jpdm; May 1st, 2008 at 08:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpdm View Post
    Ganun?

    kasi barkada ko M.A. degree holder sa UST and na-admit sa PhD prgram sa Osaka University with scholarship pa.

    barkada kong isa M.A. sa UP. natanggap sa graduate program sa Manchester Metropolitan University sa United Kingdom.

    Yung isa, fellow sa UCLA pero dito nakatapos.

    Mga grad ng ADMU, UP, DLSU at UST accepted sa US ang transcript so puedeng magpursue ng graduate studies. Australia, New Zealand at ASEAN tumatangap ng graduate dito PInas...
    Anyway...baka iba circumstances nya.

    Pero pagkaintindi ko depende sa qualification mo not necessary na deficient ang educational system natin...
    Para sa masteral degree, kulang tayo sa taon ng pag-aaral para sa ibang schools sa US. Bottomline is kulang tayo sa taon. Nung unang panahon, binawasan kasi ng isang magaling na senador ang taon na pag-aaral ng mga estudyante dahil mahal daw.

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    #19
    Bakit ba mababa tingin sa mga kumukuha ng vocational at graduates dito sa PInas?

    Sila pa naman ang kailangan ng isang newly-industrialized Philippines ?(according to WIKIPEdia)


    sino magpapatakbo ng mga machine shops dito na ang pangunahing parokyano ay mga taga tsikot.......

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    #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto View Post
    There's a lot to be said about the hands-on skills of vocational/self-trained folks. I have a lot of admiration for them.

    I remember when I was taking up mechanical engineering over there. I was visiting my uncle (through marriage to one of my aunts). He was a jeepney driver and owned a couple of jeeps. We had a little chat:

    Uncle: So, you're taking mechanical engineering?
    Me: Yup.
    Uncle: Mechanical engineering.....Hmmmm. Are you good?
    Me: Yes, sir
    Uncle: Ok. Go fix my jeep. Tulong.....Go!
    Me: Fix..... The..... Jeep?..... Ummmm. Huh?
    Uncle: Mechanical Engineer........Shiiiiiiii*. Come here, I'll show you mechanical.
    Me: I'm scratching my head and smiling sheepishly like an idiot

    My uncle always was a smarta**. But, I admired his skills. He laid out a good one on me that day.
    This reminds me of my dad in the old days. I was taking up ECE at Mapua then. Tanong ni erpat, anak, anong kurso mo? ECE po itay.. ano yun, tanong ni erpat..ECE po Electronics and Comm Engineering...

    Ahhh.. sabi ni erpat..electronics ba kamo? o sige, ayusin mo yung radio at gusto kong makinig ng balita....

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