So why Gibo?

[digitalron]

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I know he refused to answer in one interview when asked if he thinks that Arroyo did something that could cause her to be prosecuted. Does his refusal to answer necessarily equate to not wanting to prosecute GMA if she is found guilty?

When you are being asked as a leader about something significant and you refused to answer yes or no, you are hiding something especially when you mince words in your answer. Succinctly, Gibo refused to answer because Gloria is the head of Lakas. It already shows that he has no balls to go against his party mates, even to those who do wrong.



It is a safe and plausible conclusion from his very statement that he pays good to those who do good. The problem arises when those who did good to him did something very wrong to the other people. How would he present a solomonic solution? Well, similar to his position with Gloria, mahirap makialam baka meron pang masabi ang mga tao. He is a reminder of how Pontius Pilate washed his hands so as not to be accused of putting an innocent man to death. In this case, he is washing his hands when it pertains to the sins of Gloria. Too bad.




Regardless of whether one is an insider or not, it shows his lack of good manners. Gibo clearly does not have the support of Danding for President because NPC believes that Chiz is winnable. But because of his ambitious stance, he saw his uncle as hindrance considering that he will not get it from him. So becoming a political butterfly, shifted to Lakas.




You have to distinguish the participants in the judicial system because there are prosecutors and there are judges. The people that would determine whether there is probable cause to file criminal information depends on the prosecutors under either the DOJ or the Ombudsman. To immediately declare his hands-off policy even before filing of criminal complaint is short of saying that it will not prosper because ultimately, as in the case of the DOJ, it is the President who can rule whether it will be filed in court as in the case of the Ampatuans.





Haha Objectivity from Lakas. I was trying to be objective how the Philippines ended up with a deficit of more than 180Billion and the NFA importing rice of more than P62 Billion before election. Siguro mapagkawang gawa ang gubyerno sa pagtulong sa mga nakakaraming dukha sa atin.

Well, sir, I guess we just have to agree to disagree. You think your candidate is the better man, then go vote for him. I think my candidate is the better man, then I will vote for him.

But know this: I did ask for proofs, and up to now, all you provided are your interpretation and opinions of statements and events. It is so easy to put words on other people's mouth; it is easy to spin the goings-on to suit one's agenda; it is so easy to make motherhood statements that appeal to the sound-bite generation.

Is my candidate and his party capable of doing such things (media spin)? Of course! everybody is. All candidates spin the present events to suit their respective goals. Everyone has a sound bite; everyone has their thirty seconders. But at the end of the day, the important thing is what does each candidate have to offer in terms of tangible programs? On what platform does each candidate stand on? On what basis should I, as an individual, have confidence in a candidate's capability to govern?

I used to have a boss who told me, "To be successful in any endeavor requires both form and substance; substance alone is not enough because what good are your skills if no one can comprehend it? And form is not enough because what good is charisma and empathy if you do not know what to do with those."

I like what Gibo said during one interview when he was asked if he will make it a priority of his administration to prosecute GMA if she was brought to court. His answer? It will not be his priority... which I strongly agree with, not because GMA is faultless (far from it!) but because of two things: first, because there already exists institutions to handle such cases; and second, there are better things that need to be done.

A presidential administration's chief goal is to lead in nation building and set up facilities to enable economic growth. An administration that concerns itself with vengeance, vindictiveness, and witch-hunts will result in wasted energy, wasted resources, and the continuation of divisiveness.

To end... I will vote for the candidate who inspires positive action, who inspires a spirit of volunteerism, who inspires a practical approach to solving problems and achieving goals, and who inspires an optimism and hope in better things to come.

[badsekktor]

I pity Gibo. He is a very promising talent after all..... despised by danding....... and was fooled by the midget in the palace.... He has no choice but to continue his campaign with much much less resources.....

[tabularasa]

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Well, sir, I guess we just have to agree to disagree. You think your candidate is the better man, then go vote for him. I think my candidate is the better man, then I will vote for him.

But know this: I did ask for proofs, and up to now, all you provided are your interpretation and opinions of statements and events. It is so easy to put words on other people's mouth; it is easy to spin the goings-on to suit one's agenda; it is so easy to make motherhood statements that appeal to the sound-bite generation.

Is my candidate and his party capable of doing such things (media spin)? Of course! everybody is. All candidates spin the present events to suit their respective goals. Everyone has a sound bite; everyone has their thirty seconders. But at the end of the day, the important thing is what does each candidate have to offer in terms of tangible programs? On what platform does each candidate stand on? On what basis should I, as an individual, have confidence in a candidate's capability to govern?

I used to have a boss who told me, "To be successful in any endeavor requires both form and substance; substance alone is not enough because what good are your skills if no one can comprehend it? And form is not enough because what good is charisma and empathy if you do not know what to do with those."

I like what Gibo said during one interview when he was asked if he will make it a priority of his administration to prosecute GMA if she was brought to court. His answer? It will not be his priority... which I strongly agree with, not because GMA is faultless (far from it!) but because of two things: first, because there already exists institutions to handle such cases; and second, there are better things that need to be done.

A presidential administration's chief goal is to lead in nation building and set up facilities to enable economic growth. An administration that concerns itself with vengeance, vindictiveness, and witch-hunts will result in wasted energy, wasted resources, and the continuation of divisiveness.

To end... I will vote for the candidate who inspires positive action, who inspires a spirit of volunteerism, who inspires a practical approach to solving problems and achieving goals, and who inspires an optimism and hope in better things to come.

All you have to do is watch the GMA7 presentation of this and you will see and know what I mean. He specifically said that he pays good to those who do good to him. It is only logical that those who are helping him, those who are allied to the present administration will be rewarded. This is one case where proof is no longer necessary. Res ipsa loquitur.

Of course, it is a mistaken notion that prosecution will be the only thing prioritized. That's oversimplification of Aquino's statement because it will be ONE of the priorities. You're talking of capacity to govern? Take it from the very mouth of Mangudadatu in his testimony before the court that Gibo Teodoro met him a month before the massacre began and explicitly warned and discouraged him not to run against the Ampatuan, Then massacre struck. In other words, Gibo knew all along how vicious and atrocious these Ampatuan clans are and yet being the DND secretary, he did not do anything despite knowledge of the possible consequences? That's not leadership to me, that's pure and simple sell-out.

And please, don't brag about volunteerism for Gibo because at the very inception of Noynoy's campaign, it was already happening. This is the only campaign where I experienced having to buy our own mineral water while walking along EDSA handing out campaign materials. What was fulfilling is that people actually asked for campaign paraphernalia without having to force them to accept it.

[digitalron]

All you have to do is watch the GMA7 presentation of this and you will see and know what I mean. He specifically said that he pays good to those who do good to him. It is only logical that those who are helping him, those who are allied to the present administration will be rewarded. This is one case where proof is no longer necessary. Res ipsa loquitur.

I have watched the GMA TV interviews, and I do not see anything that you are claiming. You sir are making a conclusion based on how you read (or how you want to read) the situation. Sorry, but the thing does not speak for itself. Proof is always necessary, otherwise, we wouldn't have laws on libel and defamation.

Of course, it is a mistaken notion that prosecution will be the only thing prioritized. That's oversimplification of Aquino's statement because it will be ONE of the priorities. You're talking of capacity to govern? Take it from the very mouth of Mangudadatu in his testimony before the court that Gibo Teodoro met him a month before the massacre began and explicitly warned and discouraged him not to run against the Ampatuan, Then massacre struck. In other words, Gibo knew all along how vicious and atrocious these Ampatuan clans are and yet being the DND secretary, he did not do anything despite knowledge of the possible consequences? That's not leadership to me, that's pure and simple sell-out.

I never said that prosecution of the guilty is Noy's only priority. But, you say it.. it is a priority of NA.

In Gibo's case, it is not his priority, though he will leave it to the institutions tasked to handle it. Gibo feels there are other more important things to do, and I agree with him on that. For me, the economy, education, and the family are more important concerns.

And please, don't brag about volunteerism for Gibo because at the very inception of Noynoy's campaign, it was already happening. This is the only campaign where I experienced having to buy our own mineral water while walking along EDSA handing out campaign materials. What was fulfilling is that people actually asked for campaign paraphernalia without having to force them to accept it.

Please stop putting words in my mouth. I never bragged about volunteerism being a monopoly of the Gibo campaign, and I never said anything about NA's campaign not being carried by volunteers either. Yeah, Noy did have a lot of volunteers. And so does Gibo. And so does Ed V. And so does Gordon. And so do the other candidates.

And if you should know one thing... the weeks right after Cory died? When people were pushing for Noy to run for the presidency? I actually was for it! I actually thought he did symbolize a unifying figure who could help in carrying the Philippines forward. I was even thinking of putting up a site specifically to help support Noy's campaign, to help advocate what he stood for.

But after several months, when I saw how raw he was for the position, how the euphoria died, and how negative his campaign has become, I lost faith. The lack of concrete plans and specific programs became a turn-off. And he and his supporters' penchant for tearing up opposing candidates (rather than just highlighting his virtues and advancing positive ideas and programs) has become very nauseating.

And by the way...

When Cory was president, she made it one of her priorities to go after the Marcoses and his cronies, and she had a lot of evidences and proofs to support her quest. Where are we on this again? Where is Imelda now? How are the cronies doing? How was the economy at that time? Cory then had a very strong support base. She was not a polarizing figure. But... what did she accomplish in this area?

Hmmm... have we not learned the lessons of our past?

[rion]

he now has support from Quiboloy, If ever INC will endorse him too, malaki ang pag-asa niya. parang hindi na masasayang boto ko sa kanya.

[claRkEnt]

he now has support from Quiboloy, If ever INC will endorse him too, malaki ang pag-asa niya. parang hindi na masasayang boto ko sa kanya.

huh?

[digitalron]

he now has support from Quiboloy, If ever INC will endorse him too, malaki ang pag-asa niya. parang hindi na masasayang boto ko sa kanya.

Well, the INC has already endorsed Aquino-Roxas.

But you know what? A vote made with full conviction is not a wasted vote, even if your candidate loses.

Imagine this, you voted for someone -- not because you fully believed in him -- because you didn't want someone else to win. Later, your expectations were not met by the candidate you voted for: who now is to blame?

I advise you to vote according to who you believe in, not who is popular or most likely to win. Then you will come out of the polling precinct happy and guiltless knowing you did what you believed was right.

Voting is as much a responsibility as it is a right. So please vote responsibly.

[rion]

ah, nahuli pala ako sa balita. hehe...

yeah, will vote for him no matter what.

[tabularasa]

Well, the INC has already endorsed Aquino-Roxas.

But you know what? A vote made with full conviction is not a wasted vote, even if your candidate loses.

Imagine this, you voted for someone -- not because you fully believed in him -- because you didn't want someone else to win. Later, your expectations were not met by the candidate you voted for: who now is to blame?

I advise you to vote according to who you believe in, not who is popular or most likely to win. Then you will come out of the polling precinct happy and guiltless knowing you did what you believed was right.

Voting is as much a responsibility as it is a right. So please vote responsibly.

Everyone expected that Gloria will be the best presidential candidate in 2004 not only because of her stellar achievements but also because she is an economics professor. She offered the best of both worlds and then the Filipinos were brought back to economic middle ages ruled by her cohorts and relatives. What Marcos did in 24 years, Arroyo shortened in 9 years. Now, Gibo as candidate, no way. Ondoy, Ampatuan, Maguindanao Massacre, political butterfly, epitome of regression rather than development.

[digitalron]

Everyone expected that Gloria will be the best presidential candidate in 2004 not only because of her stellar achievements but also because she is an economics professor. She offered the best of both worlds and then the Filipinos were brought back to economic middle ages ruled by her cohorts and relatives. What Marcos did in 24 years, Arroyo shortened in 9 years. Now, Gibo as candidate, no way. Ondoy, Ampatuan, Maguindanao Massacre, political butterfly, epitome of regression rather than development.

Really can't get away from negative campaigning, eh?

Everybody expected Cory to lift up the Philippines as well. She was clean, she was religious, she was righteous. Then she freed up the leftists, freed up Nur, did nothing significant regarding brownouts, and Kamag-anak Inc ran amuck.

And what does Noy have to offer now?

The point is, we really don't know what to expect about any candidate, whether Noy or Gibo or Dick or Ed or Jamby or Manny or Nick or JC.

So we go by a variety of criteria: past achievements, personal character, reputation amongst colleagues and peers, and plans and programs.

And I reiterate: if one's campaign is premised on motherhood statements, negativity, and a penchant for tearing down one's competition -- rather than highlighting one's virtues and programs, then no thanks.