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View Poll Results: Will you vote for the administration bet, Gibo?

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  1. Join Date
    Jan 2007

    [SIZE=3]Teodoro, Nograles trade barbs [/SIZE]

    By Gil C. Cabacungan Jr., TJ Burgonio
    Philippine Daily Inquirer
    First Posted 03:27:00 04/15/2010

    MANILA, Philippines—Saying that Lakas-Kampi-CMD standard-bearer Gilbert Teodoro faced “irreversible defeat” in the May elections, House Speaker Prospero Nograles is consulting with former President Fidel V. Ramos and other senior Lakas leaders on how to save the party and stop the wave of defections.

    “Defeat appears irreversible for the Lakas-Kampi-CMD standard-bearer. It was a mistake to choose him in the first place. In the past several months that he promised to reverse the trend of defeat, nothing happened. It only led to defections left and right, and disenchantment everywhere,” Nograles said in a statement.

    Nograles doubted that Teodoro can win, even in the administration’s traditional bailiwick of Mindanao, because he said he has done nothing while the coalition’s key leaders in the region jump to rival parties.

    He said that it “pained” him to see the Lakas-Kampi-CMD “collapsing” which was why he is moving to round up all disgruntled senior members to help steer the party in the right direction and probably adopt another candidate.

    But party official Cavite Rep. Epidio Barzaga Jr. said that it was too late for the party to adopt another candidate.

    And it would set a bad example for the youth for a party to ditch its standard-bearer in the middle of a campaign just because he or she was trailing badly in the surveys, he said.

    Nograles continued his tirade against Teodoro for the fourth straight day as Lakas-Kampi continued to suffer from defections.

    Nograles was stung by Teodoro’s calling him an “unfirm party member” who has never been supportive of his candidacy when the Speaker threatened to quit the party and support another presidential candidate.

    He accused Teodoro of joining the ruling coalition only because of his presidential ambitions since his original party, the Nationalist People’s Coalition (NPC), did not include him on its list of potential standard-bearers.

    In Iloilo City where he was on a campaign sortie, Teodoro said of Nograles’ threat to support another presidential candidate: “He should first win as mayor before he does that.”

    Nograles is running for mayor of Davao City against the daughter of incumbent Mayor Rodrigo Duterte.

    “He should not vent his frustrations on me. I won’t dignify his comments,” Teodoro told reporters before facing a rally of more than 5,000 organized by former Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez, the latter’s son, Rep. Raul Gonzalez Jr., and their allies Tuesday night.

    Hours earlier, he warned party officials against using him or the party as an excuse to defect to other camps.

    Taking a subtle swipe at the defectors, Teodoro said he picked Edu Manzano, who is also an Ilonggo, for his running mate because he was “trustworthy.”

    Teodoro also found an ally in the elder Gonzalez, who belittled Nograles’ threat to bolt the party.

    “We don’t abandon the party. Only rats abandon a sinking ship. It’s not yet sinking,” he told reporters.

    “What could he contribute to Gibo? He has a big constituency but we don’t know his problems there [in Davao]. He is facing a great fight,” he said of Nograles.

    Gonzalez, the former chief presidential legal counsel, said it was “myopic” of Nograles to blame Teodoro for the woes of their party mates.

    He said Nograles’ moves “could be acts inimical to the interest of the party,” but stopped short of saying this constituted grounds for his expulsion.

    Teodoro’s spokesperson, Mike Toledo, disputed Nograles’ criticism that Teodoro had poor priorities, preferring to campaign in small provinces rather than the vote-rich ones.

    “While Gibo has never had any sortie in Sarangani, he has been to Ilocos Sur three times and to Compostela Valley twice, contrary to what Speaker Nograles is saying,” Toledo said.

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    Oct 2002

    [SIZE="3"]Nograles says Gibo's defeat inevitable[/SIZE] | 04/15/2010 5:10 PM

    MANILA, Philippines (3rd UPDATE) - House Speaker Prospero Nograles believes the defeat of Lakas-Kampi-CMD presidential bet Gilberto "Gibo" Teodoro in the May 10 polls is inevitable.

    In an official statement, Nograles, a member of the ruling party's National Advisory Board, warned Teodoro that although "many members of the Lakas-Kampi-CMD may still appear to be toeing the line" due to their "love" for the party and President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, many of them "will not support Teodoro in the final days of the campaign."

    The most recent key administration ally to abandon Teodoro is Albay Gov. Joey Salceda, who confirmed on Wednesday that he would support his Ateneo de Manila University classmate Sen. Benigno "Noynoy" Aquino III of the Liberal Party. (Click here for story.)

    Nograles earlier said he was considering leaving Lakas-Kampi-CMD due to poor party leadership.

    On Thursday, Nograles criticized Teodoro's "style of politics" as "divisive, which is why many of our members are defecting."

    "He will be surprised to realize on May 10 that many of those who are staying behind for the sake of the party that are running for elective posts will also junk him in their sample ballots," Nograles said.

    The Speaker also said Teodoro had no right to say Lakas-Kampi members who have defected to other parties were "trapos," (rags) a derisive term to describe Filipino politicians.

    Nograles said these "trapos" had worked hard to build the party, which Teodoro, a party "hitch hiker," is now using to "advance his political ambition."

    'Who is a trapo?'

    "Who is trapo? Was he not an NPC (Nationalist People's Coalition) before he became Lakas? I have been a Lakas since I joined politics and I'm still Lakas up to now. So who's the real trapo?" Nograles said.

    He said many in the administration party don't want to leave Lakas-Kampi, but they don't want to back Teodoro.

    "We don't want to abandon Lakas but we don't want Gibo. We will save Lakas but not Gibo. Mabibigo si Gibo and we know that. Those who are saying otherwise should enjoy their illusion while it last," Nograles said.

    He said Lakas-Kampi would regroup after the election and forge new alliances.

    "The party will survive but I expect that Gibo shall have learned the lesson that you can win elections by burning bridges that he did not even build. We will regroup after May 10 and I'm confident that even those who have left the party will come back to the fold," he said.

    Gibo camp in talks with LP, PMP

    Meanwhile, in another sign of trouble in the ruling party, ABS-CBN sources said Teodoro's camp was in talks with the camps of both Aquino and former President Joseph Estrada for still unclear reasons.

    The sources said Teodoro allegedly now realizes he is not getting the full support of President Arroyo. (Read: Gibo quit to protest lack of support from GMA).

    When asked to comment on this, Lakas-Kampi-CMD President Francis Manglapus, a close ally of Teodoro, said it should be no surprise if their standard-bearer is talking to Estrada and Aquino.

    Manglapus said Teodoro has always maintained close ties with Estrada, while Aquino is Teodoro's cousin.

    But Manglapus stressed that Teodoro is not withdrawing from the presidential race.

    Sarangani Gov. Miguel Dominguez confirmed that Malacañang still has not given enough support for Teodoro, unlike the support President Arroyo is giving to Lakas-Kampi bets for the House of Representatives.

    Dominguez said many in the party are wondering why there is so much support being given to congressmen but not enough for its principal bets.

    Lakas-Kampi not disintegrating

    Lakas-Kampi-CMD officials denied the party was disintegrating with the series of high-profile defections of its members to either the LP or the Nacionalista Party.

    Ray Roquero, deputy secretary-general of Lakas-Kampi-CMD, said only a few of its members have defected to rival parties.

    "We are not disintegrating. Ilan lang naman yung umalis, mabibilang mo sa isang kamay. Black propaganda lang yan ng oposisyon kaya pinalalabas na marami umaalis sa amin," he said.

    One of the big political families reported to be thinking of jumping ship is the Teves clan in Negros Oriental.

    Interviewed at the Money Market Association of the Philippines general membership meeting on Thursday, Finance Secretary Teves refused to confirm or deny whether his nephew Rep. Henry Teves of Negros Oriental will also leave Lakas-Kampi.

    Teves said he does not know what his nephew's plans are. If Rep. Teves does leave the ruling party, Sec. Teves said this would be his own decision.

    On the move of Arroyo's economic adviser Joey Salceda to leave Lakas for the LP, Teves said he and Salceda are part of President Arroyo's economic team and do not discuss politics.

    JDV wants merger dissolved

    Meanwhile, Lakas-CMD founder and former House Speaker Jose de Venecia said he is not surprised at what's happening to the ruling party.

    He said it would be best for the merged Lakas-Kampi party to just dissolve, and the original Lakas-CMD be returned to its original founders.

    De Venecia was with former President Fidel V. Ramos on Thursday at a dinner meeting with a Christian Muslim Democrats (CMD) members from Germany.

    De Venecia has a pending petition with the Supreme Court seeking to nullify the merger of Lakas-CMD and President Arroyo's Kampi.

    Ramos said he has not talked with Nograles about his concerns, although he said he has received feelers from Nograles that they talk.

    "There was an effort to pass the information of what he was going to do to me. But that was all," Ramos said.

    Like De Venecia, Ramos has refused to recognize the merged ruling party, but has remained a leader of the Lakas-CMD, the party he founded with De Venecia in 1991.

    'Lakas-Kampi can still win'

    Edcel Lagman, senior adviser of Lakas-Kampi, said Nograles is entitled to his opinion. Despite Teodoro's poor survey ratings with only a few weeks left before election day, he said their standard-bearer can still win.

    Ray Roquero, deputy secretary-general of Lakas-Kampi, said they feel bad about what Nograles has said, but they still believe the party is strong and can deliver the votes to make him win on May 10.

    "Well, coming from a previous president of the party, talagang mabigat yung sinabi ni Speaker Nograles, but we do believe that with the continued support of our loyal governors, congressmen, municipal and city mayors, I think we will come out victorious in this election," Roquero said.

    Lakas-Kampi is fielding 170 bets for Congress, 70 of whom are incumbents. It also has 64 bets for governor, of whom 43 are incumbents.

    But for political analyst Ramon Casiple, the defections are bad for the ruling party especially since there is only less than a month left before election day.

    Casiple said the Lakas-Kampi will find it hard to recover from the loss of key allies.

    Gibo camp blames old leaders for mess

    Meanwhile, in a statement, Manglapus said Nograles now "seems to be lost and confused" and needs "some guidance and direction."

    "First, he said he was bolting the party. Then he changes his mind. I suggest he first makes sure that another party would like to have him. At least the other political butterfly Gov. Zubiri made overtures first to the LP and when there was some apprehension from the ranks of the LP moved over to the NP," Manglapus said.

    He was referring to Bukidnon Gov. Jose "Joe" Zubiri, who recently quit Lakas-Kampi to support Nacionalista Party presidential bet Sen. Manny Villar. (Click story here.)

    Manglapus said that if it is true Lakas-Kampi is collapsing, "then the blame should be on others that have held the leadership of the party for so long. Obviously it was their fault that a firm foundation was not established."

    Nograles was vice-chairman of the Lakas-Kampi-CMD before new party leaders were named after Teodoro became its presidential bet for the May 10 polls.

    Positive results

    Manglapus said Teodoro's move to quit as Lakas-Kampi-CMD chair is "producing positive results as can be seen from the momentum that his campaign is generating and the competent leadership that the new Chairperson is displaying." (Click here for story.)

    The new party chairperson is Rep. Amelita Villarosa.

    "If Speaker Nograles does decide to make good on his plan to spend time putting together a rebel group within the party, we wish it is not at the expense of devoting less time on is local campaign, least he be accused of abandoning it 'in the middle of the ocean filled with sharks'," Manglapus said.

    He added that Teodoro's candidacy is based on a "solid platform of government anchored on the core principals of the party, the values of the Centrist Humanist Christian-Muslim Democratic thinking."

    "He started his quest for the presidency stating that he would run a positive campaign based on platforms and programs, this is the way he will continue and this is how he will end," Manglapus said.

    "This type of politics is a fresh and welcome development to the political maturity of the party and the country as a whole. It is not the patronage type of politics, usually based on money and political opportunism that many of our leaders have been used to. And this is why there is a groundswell of support from the non traditional sources, common citizens and volunteers from all walks of life from all around the country that have been energized by Teodoro's quest," he added.

  3. Join Date
    Oct 2002
    tanggap na ni Gibo na binigo sya ni pandak?

  4. Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Sayang si Gibo. Nadenggoy siya ni Pandak..........

  5. Join Date
    Jan 2003
    kawawang Gibo, sayang at matalino pa naman...... mukhang mas matalino yun matsing sa palasyo kesa sa kanya....

  6. Join Date
    Nov 2005
    like i said in another thread, Gibo was a joke

    whoever thought Gibo had a chance of winning is delusional

    and that Lakas party shouldnt exist in the first place

    ginawa lang ni Ramos ang Lakas para makatakbo president when he didnt win the nomination dun sa party na pinanggalingan niya

    the reason Lakas grew is coz everyone wanted to be allied with the one in power (FVR, then GMA)

    now that GMA is so damn unpopular and her term ending, and Ramos losing influence (quit politics and just go play golf, old man), there's no more incentive for any politician to stay with Lakas

    those people leaving Lakas are protecting their future

    there's no future with Lakas, or with any of those never-heard-of political parties

    the future is LP or NP

    if you're a sane politician, you either go to LP or NP
    Last edited by uls; April 16th, 2010 at 12:28 PM.

  7. Join Date
    Jun 2007
    I will vote for GIBO because....his platform has SUBSTANCE; is SPECIFIC and is definitely REALISTIC.

    Nakakasawa na ang TRAPO! ---- Mud Slingging, personalan, paawa effect, pamahirap drama, siraan, pagamit ng artista sa endorsement, pangako etc. etc. SHEEEEZZZZZ!


    All of those running for President have something mabaho about themselves one way or the other, they may have done or said something wrong before, they may have made wrong decisions etc....

    Its unfair for all of them to be judge like that. Gibo, Noynoy, Villar, Erap, Gordon etc....they are all not perfect. They also deserve respect. And I believe all of them are going to do some good to PH.

    - GIBO was great as DND
    - Villar as Las Pinas Mayor and Congressman
    - Gordon as SUBIC Chairman
    - Erap when he was VP during his Anit-Crime days...."I think he has done some good"
    - Noynoy...."No offense, but I am not aware of anything he has done while in gov't" (I am not anti-Noynoy ah)

    Anyone has the right to think of all the negativity and malice of PH politics; GIBO as tuta ni GMA, Villar as Villaroyo, Noynoy as kamaganak Inc.......its up to you, but paranoia will kill you so stop it nalang, nakakasawa na eh. Hehehe


    GMA has done lots good things for PH naman ah. It just so happens na nahuli kurakotation niya and it was over-exposed....has MARCOS, CORY, FVR and ERAP been perfect? No scams and all?....

    Barack Obama has not brought the US to heaven immidiately as dreamt...he's not perfect either, but he is the BEST choice.

    So on May 10, 2010 we have to choose only "The BEST" for PH to take a step closer to PAGBABAGO at ASENSO.....and for me GIBO is the BEST choice there is.

  8. Join Date
    Nov 2005
    pagamit ng artista sa endorsement
    di nagpa-endorse si Gibo sa artista

    pero ginawa running mate si Edu

  9. Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Uls, Sino ang iboboto mo?

  10. Join Date
    Nov 2005
    di po ako boboto

    di ako nag register

So why Gibo?