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    #11

    How then can we push the current administration to suspend this stupid policy?

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    #12
    the govt should just leave the market alone to determine supply and demand

    like auto LPG

    govt didnt have to do anything

    govt didnt have to push auto LPG

    the market for auto LPG developed all by itself

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    #13
    if the government dropped the ethanol policy altogther, by how much would the cost of fuel rise?

    1 peso?

    2 pesos?

    ****, i'd pay an extra buck or two for better fuel any day. besides, mahal naman per liter na, what difference does a buck or two make (considering na petrol hits 45-46/liter now anyway).

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post

    How then can we push the current administration to suspend this stupid policy?
    Anyone got P-Noy's facebook or email address?

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    #15

    I think the price of fuel "did not dip" because of the ethanol blend....

    Is the use of LPG driven by environmental concern? If not, then, we could not compare it with the ethanol blend in our gasolines, as it is (arguably) mainly an "environmental policy"...

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    #16
    Quote Originally Posted by voltscastillo View Post
    if the government dropped the ethanol policy altogther, by how much would the cost of fuel rise?

    1 peso?

    2 pesos?

    ****, i'd pay an extra buck or two for better fuel any day. besides, mahal naman per liter na, what difference does a buck or two make (considering na petrol hits 45-46/liter now anyway).

    I think the government subsidizes the price by P0.50 to P1.00 per liter for E10 gasoline.

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    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post

    I think the price of fuel "did not dip" because of the ethanol blend....

    Is the use of LPG driven by environmental concern? If not, then, we could not compare it with the ethanol blend in our gasolines, as it is (arguably) mainly an "environmental policy"...

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    demand for auto LPG was driven by the fuel price spike in 2008

    same with the biofuel law

    the govt wanted to reduce oil/fuel imports coz the price of imported oil/fuel went to the moon in 2008

    recall when oil companies started selling E10

    recall when auto LPG conversion was totally hot
    Last edited by uls; July 28th, 2010 at 01:10 PM.

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    #18
    Yeah I admit back in 2008 I almost had my Accord (somewhat a gas guzzler) converted into LPG. Buti na lang bigla bagsak ang oil after the bubble bursted around August ata yun of 2008...

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    #19
    yep

    oil price almost hit $150 in July 2008

    very hot ang LPG conversion and fuel saving device threads during that time

    and the oil price threads

    everyone was hating the oil companies

    naalala ko dami nagagalit sa akin coz i kept saying it wasnt the fault of oil companies

    hehe
    Last edited by uls; July 28th, 2010 at 01:24 PM.

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    #20
    Quote Originally Posted by voltscastillo View Post
    if the government dropped the ethanol policy altogther, by how much would the cost of fuel rise?

    1 peso?

    2 pesos?

    ****, i'd pay an extra buck or two for better fuel any day. besides, mahal naman per liter na, what difference does a buck or two make (considering na petrol hits 45-46/liter now anyway).
    at present, ethanol is more expensive than gasoline. so gasoline prices will go down if we get rid of the ethanol blend today. i think this has been the trend for quite some time already.

    to be fair, at the time this bio thing was being proposed, ethanol was indeed cheaper than gasoline.

    the selling point of ethanol is not its price, but that it is a renewable energy source as compared to fossil fuel which may be finite.

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