Martial Law in Mindanao

[leonleon]

kaya nga nila sinakop ang marawi

All along I thought the reason Maute Group sieged Marawi was to create a diversion as the Phil. Military was closing in on them, going after their leader, Isnilon Hapilon.

[uls]

All along I thought the reason Maute Group sieged Marawi was to create a diversion as the Phil. Military was closing in on them, going after their leader, Isnilon Hapilon.

there were already in marawi planning a take over

govt forces went in to get Hapilon which moved forward their plan to take over marawi

it wasnt time yet but they were forced to go ahead with the plan when govt troops went in

[uls]

So they are carrying 50 millon in cash as if it were loose change while they go around town waging a war with the Phil. military?

As if all those war materiel (bullets, rifles, rpg, knives, communication equipment, etc.) are not heavy enough, they have to lug around this large amount of cash.

I'm sure whoever their treasurer is would have ran away with the money the first chance he got.

Maute group could have been in marawi for months already

it's not like they just went into marawi recently to protect Hapilon

they have been planning to take over the city

syempre nag stockpile na sila ng ammo, weapons etc

alam naman nila syempre makikipag laban sila sa gobyerno

which explains why they can't seem to run out of bullets kahit ilan araw na sila nakikipaglaban sa govt forces

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all that ammo and guns (maybe even cash) could have been brought in over a period of weeks or months

not all in 1 trip

pwede rin they raided a bank there

[leonleon]

there were already in marawi planning a take over

govt forces went in to get Hapilon which moved forward their plan to take over marawi

it wasnt time yet but they were forced to go ahead with the plan when govt troops went in

So Maute group was in Marawi, planning a takeover.

Military went in and surprised the Maute group.

Real purpose of the military was just to capture Hapilon, not to pre-empt a Marawi takeover by the Maute group.

Military/ gov't had no idea of takeover?

So that explains why all key cabinet officials were in Russia with their overlord?

In short they were both taken by surprise.

Military was surprised Maute was planning takeover.

Maute was surprised the Military was knocking on their door, wanting to neutralize Hapilon.

Failure of intelligence again?

How much intel fund do they have anyway?

[leonleon]

Maute group could have been in marawi for months already

it's not like they just went into marawi recently to protect Hapilon

they have been planning to take over the city

syempre nag stockpile na sila ng ammo, weapons etc

alam naman nila syempre makikipag laban sila sa gobyerno

which explains why they can't seem to run out of bullets kahit ilan araw na sila nakikipaglaban sa govt forces

If military intelligence was not so, ehem, "handicapped", they should have pre-empted all this if you say the Maute has been operating there for months and months already.

And yet, it seems Military / government was taken by surprise.

They should have had field reports of this groups acquiring the needed weapons and ammo.

They should have had reports on the who's and the what's and the when's and the how's of the operation.

They should have sounded the alarm.

And yet, what happened happened, and then some, like no one was here minding the house.

Junket in Russia was more important.

Intel fund or intelligence was insufficient?

[uls]

Dr. Banlaoi explains Maute to Winnie Monsod



Bawal ang Pasaway: Dr. Banlaoi, ikinuwento ang ugnayan ni Isnilon Hapilon sa Maute Group - YouTube



i'd like to chat with this guy

lots of respect to Dr. Banlaoi

[kisshmet]

If military intelligence was not so, ehem, "handicapped", they should have pre-empted all this if you say the Maute has been operating there for months and months already.

And yet, it seems Military / government was taken by surprise.

They should have had field reports of this groups acquiring the needed weapons and ammo.

They should have had reports on the who's and the what's and the when's and the how's of the operation.

They should have sounded the alarm.

And yet, what happened happened, and then some, like no one was here minding the house.

Junket in Russia was more important.

Intel fund or intelligence was insufficient?

Intel funds are more than enough, if utilized properly

Remember the case of gloria that was dismissed by the supreme court for lack of evidence?

Its all about intel funds of the PCSO

Happy days are back for glorys men in govt and thats how they handle intel funds, lining their pocket or maligning their vocal critics to silence dissent

I wont be surprised if the serial numbers of weapons seized from the radicals will be traced to the defense dept database of firearms

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[Juan Martinez]

Dr. Banlaoi explains Maute to Winnie Monsod



Bawal ang Pasaway: Dr. Banlaoi, ikinuwento ang ugnayan ni Isnilon Hapilon sa Maute Group - YouTube



i'd like to chat with this guy

lots of respect to Dr. Banlaoi

he's good. i read his book "war on terrorism in southeast asia." he was a professor at ndcp. unlike most academics, no airs.

[Juan Martinez]

to the uninitiated, it is so easy to say "failure of intelligence."

information is not intelligence. informations gathered have to go through intelligence cycle to have an actionable intelligence for the policy makers to act on.

even if one already has actionable intelligence, the person behind the door where the buck stops may or may not follow its recommendation to the letter.

case in point: abu musab al-zarkawi, founder of isis.

in 2001, the central intelligence knew the exact location of zarkawi then head of al-qaeda in iraq and syria. it recommended to smoke him to smithereens but a guy named dick cheney got in the way. when zarqawi was killed in 2006, it was already too late. in fact, he was replaced by a more vicious abu bakr al-bagdadi, who appointed himself as the caliph.

[Juan Martinez]

prior to decalaration of martial law in mindanao, the president already made mention that he might place it under military rule.

Duterte warns of martial law in Mindanao if violence escalates

this goes to show that he already has actionable information as early as March, but think of the flack he would get if he had issued it then, not to mention the economic ramifications of the declaration.

the catholic church, one of his most vocal critics, is eerily silent. why? because one of it's own is held captive apart from the fact that its cathedral was razed to the ground.

placing mindanao under military rule is the single most decisive thing he did in his presidency.