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View Poll Results: Senate's verdict on CJ

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    #2821
    Susunod: Mabubuhay si Iggy Arroyo at aangkinin niya lahat nung accounts ni CJ.

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    #2822
    Quote Originally Posted by e-bundok View Post
    I still give CJ the benefit of the doubt.
    End game na po ito. Once there is proof of unexplained wealth, especially from AMLC, then the burden proof lies in the accused. And, if we go back to Article 2 po ba iyon (?), where all these unexplained came out, once the accused cannot explain or justify, it is the law itself that takes over. The law prescribes that a case should be pursued against the accused, regardless if he is acquitted or convicted. Samakatuwid po, eh, kahit ma acquit pa po yung corrupt na opisyal na 'yan, eh, pagkatapos po na Impeachment proceedings, may sasalubong na pong kaso dyan sa kanya sa Office of the Ombudsman, kasi po yung batas ang na mismong nagsasabi na dapat kasuhan po 'yung tao na 'yan, kasi klaro pong unexplained wealth.

    Expect the Defense to further muddle the situation. Guguluhin lang po ang utak ng taong bayan. Lilitu-litohin lang, pero kahit ano pang gawin nila dyan, sumayaw, kumanta, ipasa man, o i-deny itong lahat, may kaso pa rin 'yan pag tapos ng Impeachment hearings.

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    #2823
    News: 'AMLC knows who deposited CJ's dollars'

    sino kaya? baka si "small lady" ulit.......



    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/05...ed-cjs-dollars


    MANILA, Philippines – Who deposited the alleged millions of dollars in Chief Justice Renato Corona’s bank accounts?

    This could be the next line of questioning in Corona’s impeachment trial after Ombudsman Conchita Carpio Morales revealed an Anti-Money Laundering Council (AMLC) report showing Corona had $12 million in “fresh deposits," spread out into 82 accounts in 5 banks from 2003 to 2011.

    Dean Antonio La Viña of the Ateneo School of Government said the AMLC could provide more information on who deposited the money into Corona’s accounts.

    “Malalaman natin kung sino ang nagdeposit ng pera na yun so malalaman natin kung ito ay may kaugnayan sa mga kaso,” he said in a radio DZMM interview.

    Morales earlier told senators Corona’s dollar deposits grew from just one dollar account in 2003 to 82 accounts by the end of 2011.

    She said there were “significant deposits and withdrawals on various significant dates including the 2004 and 2007 elections as well as the week he was impeached specifically December 12,13, 15, 19, 20, and 22, 2011.”

    She said on December 12, 2011, the day he was impeached, Corona pre-terminated a US dollar time deposit account amounting to $418,193.32 and then added to another bank in Bank of Philippines Islands (BPI) San Francisco del Monte branch. Corona then deducted $417,978.80 from the account and placed in a regular trust fund placement.

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    #2824
    sigurado ganyan na lang gagawin ng depensa. like don sa napanood ko na interview last night nung isa sa mga lawyers (nalimutan ko name), kesyo mali or di daw totoo yung binigay na report ng amlc... nung tinanong siya nung reporter sino nagsabi or source nila ang sagot e, sa internet daw, parang may nakapag-blog, etc.. basta wala siyang maisagot na specific na site or name kung kanino nila nalaman... wtf!

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    #2825
    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    News: 'AMLC knows who deposited CJ's dollars'

    sino kaya? baka si "small lady" ulit.......



    'AMLC knows who deposited CJ's dollars' | ABS-CBN News
    wala ng iba!

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    #2826
    May 15, 2012

    From abs-cbnnews.com:

    MANILA, Philippines (2nd UPDATE) - If the Anti-Money Laundering Council (AMLC) report on Chief Justice Renato Corona's dollar accounts and transactions is verified, then it's game over for him in his impeachment trial, analysts said late Monday.

    Reacting to the testimony of Ombudsman Conchita Carpio-Morales, Ateneo de Manila University (AdMU) School of Government Dean Tony La Viña said that if it is proven that the AMLC report is true, then the chief justice is finished.

    "If the AMLC report is verified, I would think it is all over but the formalities. Of course, this can be dragged on by questioning authenticity of documents/transactions but is disservice to public if purpose is delaying inevitable," he said on social media network Twitter.

    ANC analyst and veteran journalist Teddy Locsin Jr. also believes that Morales' testimony, if proven correct, means the end for Corona.

    "It isn't even a bombshell but a careful reconstruction that seals CJ's coffin," he said on Twitter.

    "Corona must explain; he cannot, unless Morales lent herself to wholesale fraud, which I do not believe," he said. "I believe she (Morales) has done it already. I hope no one credits [the] prosecution."

    "Non-disclosure [is] perfectly legal and proper, it is the gigantic sum that is horrifying," he added.

    Locsin, a former Makati congressman, said that if Corona does not have an explanation for his multi-million dollar transactions, he should be removed from office.

    "If Corona [is] guilty even of [an] uncharged crime like this, he should be removed. Too much," he said.


    On Monday night, Corona issued a statement denying the figures mentioned by Morales. He said Morales should resign once proven wrong.

    However, he did not categorically deny the existence of the dollar accounts.

    'At least $10M in 82 dollar accounts'

    Carpio-Morales testified that Corona allegedly had at least $10 million in transactional balances in 82 US dollar accounts in 5 banks from 2003 to 2011.

    Gasps and stunned silence met the testimony of Morales, who has launched a fact-finding investigation into Corona's alleged dollar accounts.

    The Ombudsman said "significant deposits and withdrawals" on the dollar accounts were made during the 2004 and 2007 elections, as well as the week Corona was impeached in December last year.

    Morales said on December 12, 2011, the day he was impeached, Corona pre-terminated a US dollar time deposit account amounting to $418,193.32.

    "This amount was added to a BPI [Bank of Philippine Islands] account and from this, $417,000 was deducted from this account and transferred to a regular account," she said.

    COA helps Ombudsman analyze AMLC report

    She said she got her data from Anti-Money Laundering Council (AMLC) records, and analyzed it with the help of the Commission on Audit (COA).

    COA Commissioner Heidi Mendoza, a member of the COA team that analyzed the figures, briefly took the took the witness stand in the Senate impeachment trial Monday.

    She said there were more than 400 transactions under Corona's name.

    Mendoza said, based on transactions reported to the AMLC, dollar accounts in Corona's name had a total inflow of $28 million and total outflow of $30 million from April 2003 to December 2011.

    She said peso transactions involving Corona's bank accounts also reached P242 million.

    Corona only declared P3.5 million in cash in his 2010 SALN. Article 2 of the impeachment complaint accuses the Chief Justice of failing to declare and disclose all of his assets and his true net worth.

    Conspiracy to bring down CJ: defense

    In response, the defense dismissed Morales' testimony as "proof" of an alleged conspiracy among government agencies to bring down the chief justice.

    "May motibo talaga na sirain ang pangalan ni Chief Justice. May malinaw na motibo para siya ay tanggalin," said Atty. Rico Quicho.

    The defense also claimed that the Ombudsman's testimony was not damaging, and only muddled the issue further.

    Quicho admitted earlier in the day that they were caught flatfooted by Morales' revelations.

    Morales will continue her testimony on Tuesday.

    Checkmate after failed gambit?

    Political analyst and University of the Philippines professor Prospero de Vera last Saturday described the defense's decision to present Corona and Morales as witnesses in the impeachment trial as a gambit.

    He compared it to a chess match and said the defense's move is "make or break."

    Based on the reactions of people who watched the proceedings in the Senate on Monday, the defense's gambit may have failed.

    Prosecutors said Morales' testimony seriously damaged the case of the defense, with House lead prosecutor Rep. Niel Tupas saying the inflows and outflows in Corona's dollar accounts indicate "professional money laundering." -- with ANC

    Pati si Teddy Boy Locsin nagpapalit na rin ng mga sinasabi ngayon. Noong una, talagang kulang na lang siya ang mag-acquit kay CJ sa mga video blog niya sa ANC.

    Nasaan na ang "depensang bonggang-bongga"?
    Last edited by Altis6453; May 15th, 2012 at 03:30 PM.

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    #2827
    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    Fine. But, consider these questions:

    1. All of these accounts were opened and/or closed at a time when he was already a public official. With transactions reaching a total aggregate amount of US$12 Million. Why weren't they declared in his SALN?

    2. By what means was he able to amass a total of US$12 Million during the time when he was presumably a government employee?

    3. Ok, if he says the math is all wrong, does he mean to say these dollar time deposit accounts or dollar special deposit accounts actually existed and that they were his? How much money was actually being deposited and withdrawn then (I doubt if they'll give details without risking the presentation of bank records)? And, why were funds transferred during certain material dates pointed out by the Ombudsman?

    Dunno about you but I think the defense literally shot itself in the foot with a cannon.
    Pwede bang pati yung mga account na co-signatory siya eh lalabas din sa report ng AMLC? Baka kasi parang ito yung 42 properties (?) under his name na lumabas sa report ng LRA.

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    #2828
    ^ AFAIK, the AMLC report (which presumably contains the relevant information on these accounts of the CJ) will surface only if it is duly subpoenaed by the Impeachment Court. At this point, I doubt if Justice Cuevas or any of the members of the defense panel would do so since:

    1. It will entail entering the document into evidence;

    2. They'll have to scramble to disprove the contents of the AMLC report, or attack the credibility of the person who prepared it, if damaging to their client;

    3. They have to present the CJ, because he, and only he is privy to the nature of these deposits and the amounts that were deposited and disbursed thru those accounts --- which is tantamount to suicide once the prosecution gets to cross-examine him.

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    #2829
    wala bang statement si cheap justice corona na, pag nahanap at totoo yan $10M. Inyo na.

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    #2830
    Updates naman sa happenings inside the impeachment court.

Impeachment against CJ Corona..