View Poll Results: Senate's verdict on CJ
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March 2nd, 2012 09:36 AM #2181
Hehehe... You see its clear that you cannot even inquire on bank accounts according to the law, with exception of course.
Eto ngayon ang problema dyan, Enrile demanded that the prosec must specify the account numbers in a subpoena. Now how in the world are you going to put there the account number without someone leaking it to you? Unless you want to break the law and go to the bank and force them to give the details to you.
Ok naman na subpoena mo ang lahat ng account ni Corona without indicating the account numbers eh, dahil may lead na ang prosec na may deposit nga si Corona sa PSBank Katipunan. It was done in the time of Erap impeachment, bat di na pwede ngayon?
To quote Enrile.
“We’re having a problem in the impeachment court, to tell you the truth. We are going to judge a person, one of the highest officials of the country, recognized by the world as a chief justice of this country. And we are now in a quandary on how to deal with this problem,” Enrile said. “We are ready to exercise our duties to convict him on the basis of evidence presented if those evidence are indeed authentic, genuine.”
Kung ikaw si Leal tingin mo makaka takbo ka sa SC to invoke your bill of rights the Senate grilled De Lima with? Senate are a bunch of hypocrites. Joker and Enrile concluding that BSP abused its power to investigate Corona when in fact it was a regular BSP audit, already gives you a clear picture who will get their favor.
You also have to understand that Cuevas was Enrile's lawyer during the time Aquino government. This is in light of the coup attemp during those times.
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March 2nd, 2012 09:39 AM #2182
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March 2nd, 2012 09:42 AM #2183
Bilib ako kay Aguirre, finds humor in all this.
Fasten your seatbelt! Or else... Driven To Thrill!
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March 2nd, 2012 09:54 AM #2185although a big part of transactions goes through banks... the other side of the transactions does not...
when you pay your bills through the bank, you course your payment through the bank, but the bills also get information on the payment details.... ang naisip ko nga (although mas mahirap gawin - pero para ano pa andyan ang buong bureaucracy ng gobyerno kung di rin lang gagamitin)... check Meralco, water utilities, megaworld.. mga entities na maaaring nagbabayad sya ng check... o hindi yan covered ng bank secrecy because bank secrecy primarily involves DEPOSITS and not WITHDRAWALS... payments to utilities are in effect WITHDRAWALS from the account. na nasa bank...
may alam ba prosec na mga investments ni Corona? o kanino binili yung bahay.. yung kotse... ganun.. financial transactions from the side of the operations yung pag bili o pag bayad mismo sa pinag bilhan... dun nila kunin yung bank details, check number... from the check number.. makuha na nila yung account numbers.. all during the time of the impeachment proceeding na...
ang kaso ginawa ng prosec, inuna ilabas yung bank details agad.. natural unang tanong agad ay pano nya nakuha inspite of bank secrecy laws?
nung tinanong ni Enrile na mag specify ng bank accounts sa PSBank.. ang mali ng prosec.. they didn't lay the predicate... kahit ako man.. hingan mo ako ng permit to look through bank accounts.. unang tanong ko will be how sure are you that those accounts are relevant? na hindi fishing? eh kung sa ibang tao pala yung account na yun? lalong wala sa position ang Impeachment court to divulge that since hindi naman pala kay Corona..
dapat di muna nilabas ng prosec yung "altered" document na yun... nagpasakalye muna sila na they are establishing muna which banks does Corona transact with... yun muna i establish nila... meralco is a Lopez company (well at least used to be, i'm sure may connection pa yan sa loob), aside from being a law abiding and socially responsible company.. what will they gain by not helping in identifying the meter number of the residence of Corona, and then eventually going to the form of payment ni Corona to pay his utilities... kapag na establish na which banks nag transact si Corona, tsaka na nila palabasin yung account numbers...
the point is.. there are ways around... just because they have the backing of the president, just because they have the exemption sa bank secrecy law, it doesn't mean that they get a free ride na... ayusin din nila ang trabaho nila...
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March 2nd, 2012 09:59 AM #2186
hinikayat pa ni Corona ang mga recent bar exam passers to be part of his defense team.
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March 2nd, 2012 10:06 AM #2189
^^^^ The only blunder prosec committed is when they attached those annex, but then sa dami ng account number na yun and all were proven to be true. Ang tanong naman dyan eh, pano nyo nakuha tong details na to at tama lahat?
Babalik at babalik tayo sa violation ng Bank secrecy law. Here's the catch... Those annex will not be offered as evidence so lusot na ang prosec dyan.
Kaya nga ubod ng sipag si Enrile ngayon to the point that he will detain Leal ASAP until Leal sings a tune Enrile wants to hear. If those leaked documents indeed came from BSP then automatic bokya ang prosec. That's the fastest route Enrile can take to do defense a favor.
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March 2nd, 2012 10:09 AM #2190nagkaroon ng bank run noon... yun ang iniiwasan nila.. in the first place nung dati, dapat din with account numbers dapat ang subpoena.. now why in the world didn't CJ Davide insist on that.. I think moot and academic na...
Now you know why Cuevas said they might go to SC if those subpoenaed documents will be admitted as evidence. May case ang prosec as far as article 2 is concern. That's why Enrile is going an arms length to detain Leal until he tells a story that Enrile like, or Leal go to SC.
Kung ikaw si Leal tingin mo makaka takbo ka sa SC to invoke your bill of rights the Senate grilled De Lima with? Senate are a bunch of hypocrites. Joker and Enrile concluding that BSP abused its power to investigate Corona when in fact it was a regular BSP audit, already gives you a clear picture who will get their favor.
on the other side.. ibang issue ang level ng hypocirsy (kung meron man) ng ilang Senador... the fact is, there are laws... and hangga't maaari you use the law on your side.. whether Enrile / Arroyo intent in doing all these is to really protect Corona specifically, or to protect the rule of law in general is hard to prove... motive and intent are always hard to prove... mai relate lang ang resulta sa motive / intent sa action nila which in this case is yung acquit / convict vote nila... until that happens, pointless na mag speculate kung pro o anti Corona ba sila... important is to let the rule of law prevail..
You also have to understand that Cuevas was Enrile's lawyer during the time Aquino government. This is in light of the coup attemp during those times.
Choice I would have made as well.:nod:
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