The Great Mining Debate

**111prez** · March 3rd, 2012 06:35 PM

lopez is holier than thou because she is rich, has the money, trust fund, inheritance and does not even have to go/see/stay in these poor areas where mining is happening

if she really believes in converting these places to eco-tourism, let her put her wealth where her mouth is

but just to clarify, i do not support irresponsible mining. it should be responsible mining coupled with sustainable growth for the communities and environment affected

**niky** · March 3rd, 2012 07:03 PM

Mining will never be a sustainable industry. But it can be relatively eco-neutral if safeguards are put into place.

By banning large-scale mining, you're leaving only the poor illegal miners, the ones who can't be regulated.

Banning mining is impossible. Might as well ban all resource harvesting... since everything destroys the environment.

Maybe they should work on banning farming. Farming destroys eco-systems, pours nitrates and nutrient right run-off into rivers, causing damaging algae blooms, depletes our topsoil, kills and poisons small animals and leaves the land used too depleted to grow anything on in the future... not even weeds.

What? You say that responsible farming doesn't do all that? What do you know? That's just like mining?

**uls** · March 3rd, 2012 11:02 PM

environmentalists want to send the human race back to the stone age

they want humans to live like Tarzan

**uls** · March 3rd, 2012 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by niky

Mining will never be a sustainable industry. But it can be relatively eco-neutral if safeguards are put into place.

By banning large-scale mining, you're leaving only the poor illegal miners, the ones who can't be regulated.

Banning mining is impossible. Might as well ban all resource harvesting... since everything destroys the environment.

Maybe they should work on banning farming. Farming destroys eco-systems, pours nitrates and nutrient right run-off into rivers, causing damaging algae blooms, depletes our topsoil, kills and poisons small animals and leaves the land used too depleted to grow anything on in the future... not even weeds.

What? You say that responsible farming doesn't do all that? What do you know? That's just like mining?

ya if they really wanna protect the environment they should seek to ban industrial agriculture (industrial production of cattle, swine, poultry, fish, crops)

humans will become hunter-gatherers again

environmentalists want to stop 6000 years of upward trajectory of human civilization

**fourtheboys96** · March 4th, 2012 12:15 AM

as the foreign expert said, we cannot totally ban mining. and i agree.

but if that is the case, we should at least strictly implement the environmental management plans that these mining companies have in place.

**wowiesy** · March 4th, 2012 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by fourtheboys96

as the foreign expert said, we cannot totally ban mining. and i agree.

but if that is the case, we should at least strictly implement the environmental management plans that these mining companies have in place.

Yan nga position ni MVP - upgrade the capabilities of the government and the governmenr enforcers so that proper monitoring and enforcement can be done... What appens is, kung mismo denr or mgb ay hindi kaya mag monitor o mag test ng mga parameters, mas madali para sa miner ang magpalusot until it is too late at napakalaking damage na ang nangyari...

Be it the lgu monitoring or natl government...

Problema ata ang plano ng gobyerno irekta sa CCT yung pondong makukuha dito...

**wowiesy** · March 4th, 2012 01:11 PM

Wala ako mahanap online video ng portion na nabnggit ni Atty Kapunan about West Tower cleanup... Anyone has a link? I've benn trying to view the different videos sa ANC... As farcas the speeches ng mga speakers naka post pa... Partbof the Q&A naka post din... Pero yung part na nabanggit yung West Tower, interested ako makita yung context ng usapan...

Any links?

**Ry_Tower** · March 4th, 2012 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by fourtheboys96

as the foreign expert said, we cannot totally ban mining. and i agree.

but if that is the case, we should at least strictly implement the environmental management plans that these mining companies have in place.

Like I sadi before, the problem is that the rules in place for responsible mining is not being enforced religiously. That' the problem, not large-scale mining.

Tapos yung small scale mining kapag gumuho at may natakpan, grabeng drama nila na mahirap kasi sila kaya yan na lang puwede gawi etc etc etc. It could have been better diba?!

**111prez** · March 4th, 2012 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by niky

Mining will never be a sustainable industry. But it can be relatively eco-neutral if safeguards are put into place.

By banning large-scale mining, you're leaving only the poor illegal miners, the ones who can't be regulated.

Banning mining is impossible. Might as well ban all resource harvesting... since everything destroys the environment.

Maybe they should work on banning farming. Farming destroys eco-systems, pours nitrates and nutrient right run-off into rivers, causing damaging algae blooms, depletes our topsoil, kills and poisons small animals and leaves the land used too depleted to grow anything on in the future... not even weeds.

What? You say that responsible farming doesn't do all that? What do you know? That's just like mining?

mining is never sustainable. it is a resource depleting industry

but you can be responsible in mining

and at the same time assure sustainable growth for the community and environment affected.

as for the mine site itself, it all depends on how the mining was, or is being done