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    #51
    Quote Originally Posted by n2knee View Post
    you mean kukunin sila ni lucifer?

    magtatagal pa buhay nyan.. .remember last year nung nasa st luke's yan? andaming nagdasal na matuluyan na, pero nakalusot. . .walang kukuha dyan e. . .sa taas hindi sya pwede. . .sa baba naman, takot lang ni lucifer na baka ma-oust sya. . .


    peace of christ. . .

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    "THOUGH HOME TO US ALL, THE EARTH IS MUTE.
    IT DOESN'T GET A VOTE IN ANY CONGRESS OR PARLIAMENT.
    IT DOESN'T OWN BLOCKS OF SHARES IN THE MARKET.
    IT DOESN'T RISE UP AT A PROTEST RALLY.
    IT CAN'T EVEN BUY A HYBRID CAR.
    THE EARTH HAS NO VOICE--SO WE MUST SPEAK FOR IT."

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    #52
    Quote Originally Posted by explorer View Post
    i would love to see the boy's face when they are thrown out of malacanang...legally or illegally it may not happen soon...but 2010 is very near...they can hope (or work hard for it) so that the person who will take over will forgive or protect them.
    hehehe! what if kung si joey de venecia or his dad ang naging next president.... gantihan blues to malamang. or erap (wag naman sana!) or chiz! hehehe pandak's list of enemies are getting longer. they should pray that the next president is an ass kisser of their mom.....

    sana si manong ed na lang!

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    #53
    I know 100 years is nothing in a life of a republic, but its been more than 100 years. Kailan kaya tayo magkakaroon ng matino na leaders?

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    #54
    Money, power behind fall of De Venecia--analysts


    By Karl Wilson
    Agence France-Presse
    First Posted 14:18:00 02/07/2008


    MANILA, Philippines -- The ouster of former House Speaker Jose de Venecia Jr. has once again highlighted how a small group of political elites here use their power to sway colleagues and enrich their loved ones, analysts say.
    De Venecia -- who accused President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, her government and her family of corruption -- was voted out of his seat after a marathon session, and replaced with close Arroyo ally Prospero Nograles, representative of Davao City.
    Experts said the move showed how lawmakers, whose monthly salary is a mere P35,000 ($850), are easily swayed by more powerful members with lots of cash and influence in the worlds of politics and business.
    "It is not like other democracies where you have a solid party system," political analyst Antonio Abaya, of the Foundation for Transparency and Public Accountability, told Agence France-Presse.
    "Here it is all about money and power. We call it the politics of patronage."
    Edmund Tayao, a political scientist with the University of Santo Tomas, agreed, saying: "Politics in this country is dominated by a small group of rich and very powerful families."
    One of the most sought-after jobs in the country is Speaker of the House, a position that wields enormous power -- especially when it comes to dividing up the yearly congressional budget for local spending.
    This year the financial allotment totals around P16.7 billion ($481 million dollars) for just 239 lawmakers to be used in their constituencies for projects such as roads and schools.
    For some lawmakers, "pork-barrel" allocations for their congressional districts can be upwards of P70 million -- which, along with all the other perks of holding public office, are not audited.
    "With all that largesse at his fingertips, the speaker of the House has one of the most influential positions in the Philippines," said Clarita Carlos, a political scientist with the University of the Philippines.
    "This is the taxpayer's money and we have no idea how it is spent or where it is spent. Why should these clowns be allowed to have all that money without any accountability?"
    De Venecia -- who served as speaker for 12 years -- was the fall guy in a classic dispute between two powerful political families over money, Tayao explained.
    The 72-year-old veteran had been an ardent supporter of Arroyo for years, guiding her through the fallout following the disputed 2004 presidential election and deflecting repeated congressional attempts to impeach her.
    He rewarded those lawmakers who fell in line with generous financial support for their constituencies.
    But on Monday, he turned on her, delivering a stinging speech against her on the House floor, accusing her of corruption and cheating to win re-election.
    According to Tayao, De Venecia lost faith in Arroyo when his son Jose III or Joey lost a controversial broadband network contract last year to a Chinese company -- a deal the younger De Venecia says was tainted by massive corruption at the highest levels.
    Joey de Venecia also accused Arroyo’s husband, lawyer Jose Miguel Arroyo, of trying to silence him over the deal.
    During a Senate investigation, it was alleged the $330-million project was overpriced by $200 million.
    "That was the straw that broke the camel's back," Tayao said.
    Arroyo's two lawmaker sons, Juan Miguel and Diosdado, eventually led the campaign to remove the De Venecia.
    Amando Doronila, a columnist for the Philippine Daily Enquirer, described De Venecia's ouster as "a vendetta between the Arroyos and the De Venecias over the spoils of office -- an issue basically concerned with corruption."
    Another commentator, Jarius Bondoc, wrote in the Philippine Star that with Nograles as speaker, control over the congressional pork-barrel "would land in the hands of the Arroyos -- including First Gentleman Mike."
    "That would make their family truly the most powerful in the land -- with Mrs. Arroyo in charge of the executive and the other Arroyos lording over the House."
    Tayao said Arroyo had taken a "big gamble" in dumping De Venecia.
    "He has been around for a long time and knows where the skeletons are buried," he said.
    Source: www.inquirer.net
    Feb.07, 2008

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    #55
    Kaya pala..........bumaha na naman ng pera.

    Kawawang Pilipinas!



    Daily Tribune
    6 Feb 2008


    Palace Bribed ‘YES’ House Voters with P1M Cash, P10M in Projects


    Malacañang has reportedly once again used bribery to get the congressmen to oust then Speaker Jose de Venecia Jr.

    According to a lawmaker, who asked for anonymity, the congressmen who had voted “yes” late Monday to declare the Speaker’s position vacant received money from Malacañang in the form of P1 million in cash and P10 million in road projects which allegedly came from the Road Users Tax.

    The source said the money was given to the lawmakers during a meeting of the Kabalikat ng Malayang Pilipino, the political party of President Arroyo, at the residence of Pampanga Rep. and presidential son Juan Miguel “Mikey” Arroyo at the La Vista Subdivision in Quezon City last Sunday.

    The source said present during the meeting were supporters of the First Family including Road Users Tax Board Executives and an unidentified businessman.

    The source earlier alleged that the congressmen who attended previous meetings called by Mikey Arroyo were also given P100,000 each.

    Another lawmaker belonging to the ruling administration party Lakas-Christian Muslim Democrats (Lakas-CMD0 also said some of the lawmakers had received P300,000 each and were promised another P200,000 after De Venecia was ousted.

    Asked on a television news program over the allegations, newly installed Speaker Prospero Nograles said there was no truth to them.

    The Davao City congressman said the claims of bribery by the Palace for lawmakers to vote out De Venecia were nothing but concoctions and were mere “barber’s tales.”

    Of the 240 members of Congress, 174 voted to oust De Venecia.

    That number was more than enough to have him removed from the speakership as the House rules merely call for 121 votes to effect it.

    This was not the first time that allegations of the Arroyo administration misusing the Road Users Tax fund have cropped up.

    In 2005, the fund was also alleged to have been used to bribe lawmakers into voting againstthe impeachment case lodged against Mrs. Arroyo.

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    #56
    Former Belgian Prime Minister confirmed the election of JDV as chairman of Centrist Democrats International (CDI) Asia-Pacific. Hmm is it true that he was the one who conceptualized the CDI Asia Pacific?

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    #57
    ngayong na kick out na siya may pasasabugin din kayang bomba?

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    #58
    In a sudden twist of fate, ang lalim ng lagapak ni JdV...from #4 man of the republic down to just a mere congressman and to add insult to the injury, may balak pang sipain sya bilang Lakas-CMD president para mawalan ng party
    machinery power kaya tuloy nagpapaampon sa opposition... ubos ang datung
    ni erap nitong taong 'to...

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    #59
    well...ang alam ko merong lalagapak ng mas malalim pa kay JDV...si JDV ay isa lang suporting actor kung baga sa pelikula ....abangan ang susunod na kabanata

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