The Church and the State

[b_9904]

i think it is the order that government lays down, that enables the economy to grow.

Not order, not really. More like stability.

Why wage war when you only have to wait for a few years before the next term change. :D

[safeorigin]

err... no.

capital is the main driver of economy. capitalism. duh.

the state merely coerces you to hand over a portion of your wealth so they can waste the resource with their unquestionable wisdom

in essence, "stability" and "order" are no different from protection fee

but I do understand that most people don't want to be responsible for themselves and be rather be told by an unqualified bureaucrat of what to do with their lives

e.g.

Gee, I sure do need peace and order for me to exchange my palay for money.

Gee, I sure do need me some police to conduct business with the majority of people.

Gee, I sure am glad that I have to pay a hefty amount of tax including all that e-vat nonsense while I give 20% discount on top of vat exemption to some old dude! Look at that balance sheet!

Gee, I need to get me some NBI clearance first because I don't trust myself enough if I'm a criminal.

Gee, I sure am glad that "insider" trading is banned. After all, knowing whether an investment is good or not is immoral and irresponsible way of allocating resources. I'm glad that it's casino style hit or miss!

[safeorigin]

Yes, because: government is powerful.

Kaya limitation sa govt ang Bill of Rights eh.

But, it may also be argued since we created government through a constitution that WE freed ourselves.

Tithe, if voluntary, cannot be considered as tax.

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you've described government as a necessary evil

and that evil's power feeds from the consent of its victim

all it takes is the willingness of people to say yes

(because it's 2016)

in theory the constitution is the restraint

but because it's 2016 and hipsters beat their chests for progress

principles must change too!

to heck with the old interpretations!

to heck with centuries of empiricism, absolutes and standards!

let's make laws as arcane as possible coz we know what's good for you

HAHAHA

[CVT]

They are 'a' "strange bedfellows"...


"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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[b_9904]

Up. Relevant na naman eh.

Inis lang yung mga nagdudunungan at taga kalat ng fake news eh.

Para bagang hindi CITIZEN ng Pinas ang mga pari.

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[MR_BIG18]

Up. Relevant na naman eh.

Inis lang yung mga nagdudunungan at taga kalat ng fake news eh.

Para bagang hindi CITIZEN ng Pinas ang mga pari.

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I say tax them....

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[kisshmet]

^if the churchs services arent taxed (VAT) yet as it is now, then additional 12% tax imposed will be passed on consumers

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[b_9904]

I say tax them....

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So when should we tax your expressions? Should we do it on a per character basis or posts?

I mean, legal equality means that by taxing one form of expression other forms will be taxed as well.

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[b_9904]

^if the churchs services arent taxed (VAT) yet as it is now, then additional 12% tax imposed will be passed on consumers

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You should first ask whether the Churches do indeed pay taxes.

Last I look, their exemptions are limited to certain situations only.

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[Nelson de Leon]

Dapat if an organization (like a church) is into investment, it should be taxed. Ang reason ata why the church isn't taxed is because they are not and should not be engaged in profit making. No profit, no tax.
Pero ang mga clergy are and should be taxed ang income nila.

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