The Church and the State

**b_9904** · July 22nd, 2018 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Nelson de Leon

Dapat if an organization (like a church) is into investment, it should be taxed. Ang reason ata why the church isn't taxed is because they are not and should not be engaged in profit making. No profit, no tax.
Pero ang mga clergy are and should be taxed ang income nila.

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You may want to check the facts on that.

TLDR, in a world where people hate reading technical stuff or long posts, they DO pay taxes on a lot of things. The taxes they DO NOT pay are very limited.

**MR_BIG18** · July 22nd, 2018 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by b_9904

So when should we tax your expressions? Should we do it on a per character basis or posts?

I mean, legal equality means that by taxing one form of expression other forms will be taxed as well.

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Everybody the right of free speech, but if an organization meddles in governent affairs, thats a different matter..

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**MR_BIG18** · July 22nd, 2018 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by b_9904

You should first ask whether the Churches do indeed pay taxes.

Last I look, their exemptions are limited to certain situations only.

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Land tax? I wonder if they pay that..imagine all the churches, schools and convents they own..

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**kisshmet** · July 22nd, 2018 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by b_9904

You should first ask whether the Churches do indeed pay taxes.

Last I look, their exemptions are limited to certain situations only.

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Kaya nga sabi ko "IF"

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**b_9904** · July 22nd, 2018 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by kisshmet

Kaya nga sabi ko "IF"

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You are referring to the "service". Kahit emphasize mo pa yung "IF", hindi pwede itax talaga yun.

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**b_9904** · July 22nd, 2018 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by MR_BIG18

Everybody the right of free speech, but if an organization meddles in governent affairs, thats a different matter..

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You are not making any sense.

Free speech is a mode for political ACTION against the actions of government.

So...

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**b_9904** · July 22nd, 2018 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by MR_BIG18

Land tax? I wonder if they pay that..imagine all the churches, schools and convents they own..

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Again, freedom of expression. You cannot tax that.

Music is protected expression, journalism is protected speech. Going by your argument, we should tax music played on a guitar, and journalism written on paper or a computer.

Church service is protected expression, the place of worship itself is a mere manifestation of that expression. The realty exemptions are there to unbburden the expression itself.

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**b_9904** · July 22nd, 2018 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by MR_BIG18

Land tax? I wonder if they pay that..imagine all the churches, schools and convents they own..

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Re: schools.

They get taxed on schools.

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**MR_BIG18** · July 22nd, 2018 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by b_9904

Re: schools.

They get taxed on schools.

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Yes..the tuition but im wondering bout the school..land and improvements...i went to a dominican institution..

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**b_9904** · July 22nd, 2018 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by MR_BIG18

Yes..the tuition but im wondering bout the school..land and improvements...i went to a dominican institution..

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All of that, taxed. Except those parts (religious) that qualifies for the exemption.

Too lazy to go into the nitty gritty tonight though.

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