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    #51
    lucky 7 hits lang ako. bilis talaga ng reflexes ni bush

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    I got 14 hits, hehe.
    Iba talaga kapag enjoy ka sa ginagawa mo.

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    ano kaya pwede ibato kay GMA? hehehe
    mas mahirap tamaan yun. di gaano nakikita. :bwahaha:
    Mas bagay yata ito ... Whac-a-mole.


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    Or Sapak-the-Pandak..www.sapakandawe.com, hehehe

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    Well for those of use who are actually in Iraq, we feel a bit different, We should have just left them to rot under Sadam's rule and let him kill them at will like he had been doing for 20+ year, bring back the prison camps that housed women and children who spoke against the govement and the torure chamber (were talking real torture). Let's take back the right to vote, all the womens rights they now have that they did not have before, lets just take it all back and put them back to 2003 and see how they would beg for it to change.

    At this point most of us are sick of coming back here to deploy for these un-grateful people. To much has been spent and to many lives lost. These people cannot handle nor do they deserve the new found freedom they have nore run a democratic country no matter what we do. And it's all about the culture nothing to do with anything else The reporter fails to see back in the day he would have just been taken outside and shot, now he has the freedom to express himself no matter how stupid it is.

    Time to pull out. You can't change the culture of how these people think and act.

    And yes, I'm sitting in Ramadi Iraq right now The hell with this place and it's people they do not deserve the help or sacrafice we have made for them. The US has gotten jack squat out of being here but trillions of dollars spent, many thousands of good men and women lost, and 10,000's wounded for life.

    Here's a fine example about 3 weeks ago in Bagdad the good old insurgents blew up a bus loaded with school girls then as people went to try to rescue them they set off a secondary bomb that killed those trying to help, Thats a day to day thing here. If they want to live like animals and kill themselves most of us say let them, we would rather be with our own family then to be here for a year at a time.

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    We all know that Bush, like his dad, only wanted oil. US don't really care if these people kill themselves. Quid pro quo.

    As an unwilling soldier, your plight is understandable.

    Look at the big picture:

    IRAQ: 2nd largest oil reserve in the world.

    Bush family: Oil businessmen.

    There are no WMDs, it's all pile of crap fed to the american people to support the stupid terrorism against the iraqis esp their women and children (which some of you literally raped and murdered).

    Saddam Hussein: won't let US have a share of the oil reserves (unlike Saudi Arabia).

    Only option: launch a fake attack and wage "war on terror".

    After the death of Hussein, the real mission was quite obvious when american contractors setup oil facilities.

    Quite simple isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    We all know that Bush, like his dad, only wanted oil. US don't really care if these people kill themselves. Quid pro quo.

    As an unwilling soldier, your plight is understandable.

    Look at the big picture:

    IRAQ: 2nd largest oil reserve in the world.

    Bush family: Oil businessmen.

    There are no WMDs, it's all pile of crap fed to the american people to support the stupid terrorism against the iraqis esp their women and children (which some of you literally raped and murdered).

    Saddam Hussein: won't let US have a share of the oil reserves (unlike Saudi Arabia).

    Only option: launch a fake attack and wage "war on terror".

    After the death of Hussein, the real mission was quite obvious when american contractors setup oil facilities.

    Quite simple isn't it?
    Here goes the conspiracy crap again, Number one the only people that are outright commiting murdur and rapes are iraq's and terrorist. Our military is not like there and not like yours when it comes to corruption and mass killings.

    Since it's all about oil please tell us how much money has been made from iraq oil sales???? We pump billions of dollars into this crap whole country and get nothing in return. If we wanted oil there is a easier way to get it. It's called Alaska we also have the The World’s Largest Oil Shale Deposits: The largest known oil shale deposits in the world are in the Green River Formation, which covers portions of Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming. The estimated oil resource within the Green River Formation ranges from 1.5 trillion to 1.8 trillion barrels. About 1 trillion barrels are located within the Piceance Basin, which means that this 1,200 square mile area of western Colorado potentially holds as much oil as the entire world’s proven oil reserves.

    So I'm pretty sure that's a bit easier than 6 years of war and billions of dollars a month in Iraq. Bush is already a millionare and will get millions and millions just doing speaches after office, It's not like it is over there.

    If you want to talk about murders and rapes, not of just women but of your own countries resoures all you need to do is look at your own elected officials, Police commander, and military generals. The RP is not the place to talk when it comes to that issue. Corruption is in every facite of the goverment from the top to the bottom with no checks and balances to stop it. At least I can complain about a police officer in the US and not have to pay 100,000P for a set up or worry about disapearing or getting any form of justice.

    That's just my take on the US and Bush bashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    Well for those of use who are actually in Iraq, we feel a bit different, We should have just left them to rot under Sadam's rule and let him kill them at will like he had been doing for 20+ year, bring back the prison camps that housed women and children who spoke against the govement and the torure chamber (were talking real torture). Let's take back the right to vote, all the womens rights they now have that they did not have before, lets just take it all back and put them back to 2003 and see how they would beg for it to change.

    At this point most of us are sick of coming back here to deploy for these un-grateful people. To much has been spent and to many lives lost. These people cannot handle nor do they deserve the new found freedom they have nore run a democratic country no matter what we do. And it's all about the culture nothing to do with anything else The reporter fails to see back in the day he would have just been taken outside and shot, now he has the freedom to express himself no matter how stupid it is.

    Time to pull out. You can't change the culture of how these people think and act.

    And yes, I'm sitting in Ramadi Iraq right now The hell with this place and it's people they do not deserve the help or sacrafice we have made for them. The US has gotten jack squat out of being here but trillions of dollars spent, many thousands of good men and women lost, and 10,000's wounded for life.

    Here's a fine example about 3 weeks ago in Bagdad the good old insurgents blew up a bus loaded with school girls then as people went to try to rescue them they set off a secondary bomb that killed those trying to help, Thats a day to day thing here. If they want to live like animals and kill themselves most of us say let them, we would rather be with our own family then to be here for a year at a time.
    i'm with you bro!!!! i agree!!!!

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    dvldoc, have you actually read some unfiltered news?

    so is this how you help other countries get "freedom"?

    American Soldier in Iraq Sentenced to 100 Years for Rape and Murder


    A US soldier was sentenced to 100 year imprisonment, after he admitted to taking part in a group raping of a 14-year-old Iraqi girl, after which he killed her and three of her family members, last year. Three other soldiers were already prosecuted in this terrible affair. The military tribunal also decided that the 24-year-old Paul Cortez will be discharged and lowered in rank. Yet, he will be able to ask for his sentence to be shortened in ten years. Cortez admitted last week to 4 murder charges, rape, and conspiracy to commit rape, in one of the most serious incidents uncovered in the US military in Iraq.

    In accordance with the plea-bargain, which evidently saved his life, Cortez told the court in detail how he and three other members of his unit planed to rape Abeer Qassim al-Janabi, The girl, whose parents and sister were murdered. During the hearings Cortez expressed remorse and cried. He found it hard to explain. "I don`t know why. I wish I hadn`t. The lives of four innocent people were taken. I want to apologize for all of the pain and suffering I have caused the al-Janabi family," he said.

    Up to now, 3 soldiers were prosecuted in relation to the rape and murder of the 14-year-ol girl and the murder of her family members: Private First Class Jesse Spielman, Specialist Barker and Steven Green. Barker testified against his friends and was sentenced to a 90 year prison sentence.
    THE REACH OF WAR; At Least 5 Marines Are Expected To Be Charged in Haditha Deaths

    At least five marines are expected to be charged, possibly as early as Wednesday, with the killing of 24 Iraqis, many of them unarmed women and children, in the village of Haditha in November 2005, according to a Marine official and a lawyer involved in the case.

    The charges are expected to range from negligent homicide to murder, said a senior Pentagon official familiar with the military's nearly nine-month investigation into the episode. Several marines from the Third Platoon of Company K, Third Battalion, First Marine Regiment, are accused of killing the villagers after a roadside explosion killed one of their comrades.

    Charges could also be brought against an additional one or two marines, the Marine official said, including one officer who was in the vicinity of the killings but did not participate in them.

    Though it was nearly certain that marines would be charged with crimes for the killings, exactly when the charges would be made official was unclear, military officials and defense lawyers involved in the case said. But they said charges could closely follow a closed-door briefing by Lt. Gen. Richard F. Natonski, the Marine Corps deputy commandant for plans, policies and operations, to the House Armed Services Committee on Wednesday morning.

    That briefing will relate the findings of a military inquiry into how the Marine Corps managed its investigation of the slayings, which began with an inquiry in March, four months after the killings occurred, the Pentagon official said. Aides to committee members said Marine officials promised a confidential briefing before any charges were announced.

    According to the Marine official and the defense lawyer representing one of the marines under investigation, criminal charges will be filed against Staff Sgt. Frank D. Wuterich, 26, of Meriden, Conn., the squad's leader; Lance Cpl. Stephen Tatum, 25, of Edmund, Okla.; Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt, 21, of Carbondale, Penn.; Cpl. Sanick Dela Cruz, 24, of Chicago; and Cpl. Hector Salinas, 22, of Houston.

    The five marines are said to have been the ones who killed the 24 Iraqis, including five men in a taxi that approached the marines' convoy after the explosion that killed a 20-year-old lance corporal and 19 other civilians in several houses nearby. About 10 of the dead were women and children who appeared to have been killed by rifle fire at close range, military officials said.

    The marines have said they believed that they were coming under small-arms fire from a house on the south side of the road.

    Jack Zimmermann, a lawyer for Lance Corporal Tatum, said his client had responded appropriately to a lethal attack in a dangerous region of Iraq. ''There was no crime committed,'' Mr. Zimmermann said.

    Mark Zaid, a lawyer representing Sergeant Wuterich, said his client acted in accordance with military rules of engagement.

    ''We emphatically deny that Staff Sergeant Wuterich participated in any unlawful killings that day in Haditha,'' Mr. Zaid said. ''The collateral civilian deaths were absolutely tragic, but occurred as a result of legally justified actions that routinely occur during time of war.''

    Lawyers for the other three enlisted marines declined to comment.

    The senior Pentagon official said no other marines would face charges in the case. ''The only people who will be charged with an offense will be those individuals who did the shootings,'' the official said last week.

    But the Marine officer, interviewed on Tuesday, said he expected charges to be brought against one or two additional marines, including one officer.

    ''I don't see just five of them being charged,'' the official said. ''I see six or seven. One of them, I see, is an officer.''

    That officer, the Marine official said, was First Lt. William T. Kallop, 25, the only officer at the scene, who arrived sometime after the initial explosion that led to the marines' sweep of the nearby homes.

    A lawyer for Lieutenant Kallop declined to comment Tuesday.

    Correction: January 9, 2007, Tuesday An article on Sunday about marines charged in the killing of 24 Iraqis in the village of Haditha in November 2005 misidentified the Pennyslvania hometown of one marine because of information provided by his lawyer. The marine, Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt, is from Canonsburg, not Carbondale. (The error also appeared in articles on Dec. 6 and Dec. 22.)

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    You know, I find it really crazy that you complete destroy a place then go there to "help" and "rebuild" it. Along with your contractors of course, such as Halliburton (which btw, gang raped their own employee in Iraq (KBR)). It seems, going to Iraq suddenly makes people abusive (Iraqi prison abuses) and develops fetish with gang-raping.

    As for Alaska, yes, it indeed has vast resources. So, they do US need to import oil and deal with the middle east, given its vast oil resource?

    BTW, where the heck is the WMD which was "apparently" the reason why you're there in the first place??? Nada. Zilch. Naught.
    Last edited by Horsepower; January 5th, 2009 at 07:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    dvldoc, have you actually read some unfiltered news?

    so is this how you help other countries get "freedom"?

    You point out 1 or two cases against US military, Nobody said it never happens. But then you point out a second case.

    U.S. Marines Cleared of Charges in Haditha Deaths
    LOS ANGELES — A US Marine was acquitted Wednesday, June 4, over the killing of 24 Iraqi civilians in 2005, the six man to be exonerated in the cold-blood murder.
    Lieutenant Andrew Grayson, 27, was declared "not guilty on all charges" by a jury, said a spokesman for the Camp Pendleton military base in southern California where the hearing was held, reported Reuters.

    Eight US soldiers were accused of killing 24 Iraqi civilians, including seven women and three children, near Haditha as they had gone on rampage after their patrol was attacked.

    Grayson, who served two tours of duty in Iraq, had been charged with covering up the killing.

    He was accused of ordering another Marine to delete photographs of the bodies from a computer and digital camera and lying to investigators.

    He was also charged with obstruction of justice, but the military judge dismissed this charge Tuesday.

    Grayson could have faced up to two decades in prison if convicted on all of the charges.

    Trial

    Grayson was the first Marine to stand trial in connection with the killings.

    Two other Marines, including accused ringleader Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, still face courts-martial over the killings, which brought international condemnation.

    Four Marines and four officers, including Grayson, were initially charged over the killings.
    You might want to read the news yourself. If your going to post facts research it first and post all of it not half truths.

    The action of a few does not represent the whole and it's stupid to think that way. If people thought that way about the RP what would your reputation be??

    You don't know jack about prison abuse either, Why don't you talk to some former Prisoners of Saddam and you will know what real torture murder and rape is like that crap went on for 20 plus years but you don't condemn it. The US did not go blowing up Iraq infrastructure, Do you think we came in and bombed sewage treatment plants, power plants, Pipe lines, Oil fields, hospitals, ect ??? No that's good old Terrorist crap and they still try the stuff on a weekly basis. Have ever been here??? Do you know anything but what's on the news??

    People who have not spent a day on the ground or actually talked to anyone who has lived in this country there whole life really should before they try to get all geo political. Even Saddam Generals thought they had WMD's. He had everyone fooled and that is a fact. It was every intelegence agency that thought this not just the US. The UN did vote on this or have you forgotten?

    And if you don't know I am also a muslim and I do speak arabic so I think I'm a little more abreast of the situation than joe smoe news watcher. If you added up the crimes commited against the Iraq people over the last 30 years by the previous regiem you would have littlely millions of cases to read over. Old Saddam wipped out almost 2 million of his own, And unless you help recover bodies from a mass graves like we did back in 2005 you have no clue what your talking about. Ever seen 100,000 plus skeletol remains?? I have try sleeping with that stuck in your head then tell me how bad the US is again.

    The fact is Americans are literally taking casualties to prevent civilan casualties but we'll never hear about that from you. I've been in the military for 17 years I'm not some private. I also did Operation enduring freedom Philippines. That's right so I know a heck of alot that goes on down south in the PI. Like the RP Generals reselling weapons and ammo back to the terrorist after we conficated the stash just a few short months after. Now that's a fact!!! At least were getting somewere here and don't have to deal with that kind of crap going on.

    But everyone is free to there own opinion even if they don't have any personal up close experience on the matter. Every person in Iraq is free to demonstate, protest, even if it's against the US and they won't be murdered or imprisoned try that 7 years ago.

    Anyways think I'm done here. This one could go on forever.

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