was just wondering 4x4 guys?

**OTEP** · April 1st, 2003 04:57 PM

paint...

If you're going off-road, don't bother with this part.
:mrgreen: (joke lang).

**odell** · April 2nd, 2003 01:26 AM

sir otep,
dali lng nmn drag e..hehehe.. u just shift pag umilaw n shiftlyt.. hehehe.. tpos pagstart.. tancya lng sa clutch...

pag off roading ba paanu?

about the hammer,.
ilan gens na ba un safari?
pag imodify m na bago pa ilabas kela jappy mas mahal ba or better yet pag labas mo na nun hammer bago ipamodify...
kumpleto naman ata cla ryt?

glenn,
pashare naman ng specs mo... hehehehe

mahirap din kasi guys pag hammer.. prng ang awkward tpos bababa ka ng nkaneck and tie.. .hihihihihi... :lol:

minsan kasi parang ang hirap isipin pag iooffroad m then water fording.. tapos papasok un water sa car.. hindi ba waste or sumthn?

pnu pagnkasounds kpa.. hehe.. edi dali ult..

i saw the pics of ungas.. ang porma!.. idol un submarine.. olmost half na ng body ng safari un a....

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**Ungas** · April 2nd, 2003 10:20 AM

odell::: Welcome to tsikot board! :mrgreen:

Better do the submarine thingie when you think that the vehicle is sealed enough, some water did get the ridge of my carpet wet but at the end of the trail it was unbelievably dry. Pati yung headlight housing pinasok ng tubig. Signal lights ko basa din. But there was no damage to the engine or what so ever. Alternator ko buhay pa naman, walang bali sa fan, buo pa pati a/c compressor. :D

I could say that even with sound setup, it could still be safe to have them on. But don't stay in the water submerged too long. Water could sip in to your flooring in just a matter of seconds. Just make sure all the rubber around the dorr jambs are tight enough.

**odell** · April 2nd, 2003 03:57 PM

sir ungas..
panu ho nyo malaman kung sealed enough un SUV.. and hindi ba magloloko mga electricals pagnabasa?

**OTEP** · April 2nd, 2003 05:05 PM

odell,

Isa lang tatandaan mo sa off-roading. DO NOT STEP ON THE CLUTCH!!! Madali sabihin mahirap gawin. Feeling mo kasi parati mamamatayan ka (lalo na when underwater) pero hindi naman pala. You only depress the clutch when you need to stop. You can even start the engine in first gear without stepping on the clutch. Astig. hehehe.

Dalawang klaseng Patrol ang ginagawang Hammer. Yung kay Ungas and yung long body model that preceeded it. Unfortunately, may mga ibang mods na hindi nagagawa in-house like the ARB diff locks and multimedia set-ups. Pero suspension and winch yakang yaka nila. Tawagan mo na lang si Jappy. Mabait iyan. Busy lang with law school lately.

A Hammer will not look out of place anywhere. I actually brought one (a yellow one at that) to a party. Head turner talaga. Bigatin ang dating.

I had to be winched out of a river once. Pero hindi pinasok ang sasakyan ko. Depende na lang siguro sa condition ng mga door seals and gaskets mo.

Amazingly, most of the OEM wiring is designed to repel water. Usually, yung mga made in Banawe na electricals (like the anti-theft, sound set up) ang bumibigay. Tignan mo mga connectors na OEM puro locking and sealed.

**Ungas** · April 2nd, 2003 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by odell

sir ungas..
panu ho nyo malaman kung sealed enough un SUV.. and hindi ba magloloko mga electricals pagnabasa?

Replace all the rubber on door jambs, place sealants on your light housings, vehicle body holes.

Wala namang nabasang wirings when I dipped the Safari last time. I was even surprised the the alternator was still working.

**OTEP** · April 2nd, 2003 07:26 PM

I asked the alternator people and they said that the alternator will not get damaged even when immersed in standing water. Ewan lang nila kung running water na. Just hope that no debris (rocks, dirt, mud) makes it into the alternator kasi yun ang sisira sa alternator.

Sometimes keeping water out is not the solution. But you need a way to let the water out afterwards. Drain holes are a blessing from above. :mrgreen:

**roydok** · April 2nd, 2003 08:00 PM

Ako naman I guess para maiba naman. Try new experiences to be more well rounded. :D

**odell** · April 3rd, 2003 01:10 AM

sir otep,
anung mangyayari pagnagclutch kyo?..
um,iiwan m lng nkafirst gear then konting gas.. its ok lng ba?..
start tpos nka 1st gear??.. hindi kya magstastart un db?.. aabante pa nga e..
what do you mean the long body model?.. un bago model now?.. hindi na 4x4 un db?
panu pagnagpasound set-up ako.. edi lage nln macra?..

sir ungas,
pag bago pa naman un SUV.. hindi pa nmn kelangan ireplace db?
i mean how will you know if u need to replace it na?

lahat ba ng cars may drain holes?..

**OTEP** · April 3rd, 2003 01:40 AM

Kapag tinapakan mo clutch, maghihiwalay yung clutch at flywheel. So papasok ang tubig sa pagitan nila. Kaya dudulas ang clutch. Kung nasa gitna ka ng ilog baka hindi ka na makaakyat lalo na kung steep ang bank.

Gagapang iyan kapag naka-Low range ka (4L). Starting in gear is usually done kapag namatayan ka in a precarious position. Yung hindi mo pwede alisin paa mo sa preno dahil mahuhulog kayo ng sasakyan mo (sa bangin, ilog, what have you...). Madaming nagagawa ang 4x4 na hindi ka maniniwalang kaya nilang gawin. Dami beses na ko napabilib.

May amp, sub at seps ang Pajero ko. Ayos pa naman hanggang ngayon. Lahat naman ng wiring sa cabin dumaan. Walang external except for the battery. Pati ground ko nasa loob ng cabin. Lumipad sub box ko once. Ok pa naman when it landed.

Yung lumang Patrol hahanap na lang ako ng pic. hehehe. Yung latest hindi 4x4 yun dahil sa taxes.