upgrade questions..

[niky]

tnx po mga masters.

*niky

1. intake po is the air filter ba? ano yung headers at midpipe? pag snbai ba n muffler system it includes intake, headers, midpipe at yung exhaust tip mismo?

2. fcone filters pala not advisable in our hot metro manila traffic?

3. for say 1k difference between multigrade mineral and fully synthethetic (1k sa petron multi grade oil versus 1.9k motul gamit) better na din synththethic?

tnx. tnx.

tia po.

1. Intake - that's the stock air filter plus the rubber tubing, or the aftermarket cone and stainless tubing.

Muffler is only in regards to the "can" at the back of the car.

An exhaust system is composed of the following:

headers/exhaust manifold - pipes connected to the engine
midpipe - pipe that runs underneath the car, may include catalytic converter and resonators
muffler - the can and exhaust tip

2. Yup. Cones give you more power, but removing the stock air box and cold air ducting causes a loss of power in hot weather. That said, I have a cone installed. Yes, it feels slow in traffic, but it drives slightly better at other times, so I keep it. I'm going to have a heat shield box fabricated for my cone in the next few months.

3. I prefer synthetic. It just doesn't save you any money. Personally, I don't like long change intervals that people use with synthetics (10,000 kms) because they don't take into account the destructive effects that heat and traffic have on the engine oil... so even with synthetics, I change around 5000 kms anyway.

[black0men]

*ssaloon

sorry sa kakulitan pero pag torque, that means improvement sa initial na accelaration. from stationary to mobile. mas malakas?

pag hp gain, mas mabilis takbo pag running na?

any effects on mileage?

tia po.


*nicky

ala bang effect sa fuel consumption pag naka cone?

paki update naman sir kung napagawa mo na yung heat protector mo s cone para sa mga nagbabalak mag pa cone.

tia po.

[blink21me]

torque = force pushing the car forward
hp = it's just something off of an equation, it varies, to me it's nothing to look at, instead, torque curves, powerband are more of a concern

[niky]

A full box heat shield costs a lot. Mine will cost between 4k to 7k. I'm currently using a 500 peso Simota Heat shield.

K&N filters are supposed to help consumption, but I can't tell. My current consumption hovers between 8.6 and 9.6 km/l (mixed city/highway/hataw/traffic), but I've got other mods, so I can't be sure what does what.

[Mamar]

hhmm... ako kaya anu pwede ko gawin to gain some torque?

[niky]

On small displacement cars? Increase displacement by using a stroker kit, but it doesn't give much, unless you do a 2.0 bottom end swap... :evil:

A longer intake tract gives more torque at the expense of horsepower...

The only sure way to increase torque on a B16 is with a turbo or supercharger.

RE: HP versus torque... True, HP is merely a mathematical calculation of torque and rpms, but HP really matters in racing.

Torque - it's that kick in your back as you launch the car.

HP - it's what gets you to the finish line.

The old adage: HP sells cars, torque wins races isn't strictly true... I've never seen a truck win a stock car race... What is true, though, is that good HP without good torque will severely hurt performance numbers. As with the SiR, there are cars that match it in the quarter mile at a similar weight and less horsepower simply because they have more torque.

[Mamar]

On small displacement cars? Increase displacement by using a stroker kit, but it doesn't give much, unless you do a 2.0 bottom end swap... :evil:

hhmm.. :seesaw:
gusto ko kasi mag palit ng b18!
anu ba sa tingin nyo mas maganda ko gawin b18b na block(non-vtec) para LS set-up or b18c5 na block! hinde ko alam kung alin sa dalawa mas maganda! kasi kung internals lang nila ang mag kaiba eh pag nag stroker kit ako mapapalitan din lahat ng internals nila! at presyo kasi ng b18b is 1/4 of b18c5

The only sure way to increase torque on a B16 is with a turbo or supercharger.

Yoko mag turbo mas trip ko all motror eh!

[blink21me]

The only sure way to increase torque on a B16 is with a turbo or supercharger.

exclude the supercharger, a b16 with upgraded cams and tuned matches a b16 with a stock b16 with JRSC...

RE: HP versus torque... True, HP is merely a mathematical calculation of torque and rpms, but HP really matters in racing.

Torque - it's that kick in your back as you launch the car.

HP - it's what gets you to the finish line.

hp = [torque x rpm ] / 5252, it is a mathematical calculation

What is true, though, is that good HP without good torque will severely hurt performance numbers. As with the SiR, there are cars that match it in the quarter mile at a similar weight and less horsepower simply because they have more torque.

turbo s14 Silvia vs ITR The ITR is pushing 200 HP and roughly 140 tq only... I don't know of any car with about the same HP number but has more torque that could kick a Type R in stock for stock form...