Help on my Honda Casa service, who should shoulder

[Liana]

Good day po, Wala po talaga akong alam pag dating sa car parts and issue kaya dinala ko sa Honda service for leaks issues, kasi every cold start ko ng sasakyan is nagleleak nang kaonti sa may passenger side. Ngayon naayos na nila ung sa power steering pump, and nung na seal na daw lahat, saka pumutok or nag leak daw sa power steering gearbox na sinasabi.. Ngayon panibagong bayarin nanaman, bakit naman ganon? Dba dapat na oversee nila yung sa gearbox para naprevent ung pag putok dun? Mechanic po ba nila ung may mali dun? additional 22k ako ngayon para dun.. sino po kaya ang pwedeng makausap dun regarding if ung pag service nila ang mali? or sadya na talagang mahina ung part na un kaya di sila liable?

[StockEngine]

Is the car under warranty?

[Liana]

Is the car under warranty?

Thank you po sa reply. Wala na po warranty since 2010 model pa po xa Civic..

[17Sphynx17]

I think hindi talaga cocover yan but rather you can try to appeal or request if pwede bawasan or may share lang sila sa repair costs for the new damaged part since may "fault" din sila. But they will not 100% shoulder it.

Parang sa suspension ng Honda... dalhin mo ang more than 5 year old Honda sa casa... lifter nila... dasal ka na pagbaba sa lifter, hindi dumapa yung suspension mo dahil usually it won't work right anymore. Uncle has gone through multiple hondas and usually ganun experience. Di naman sinasagot ng Honda casa yung suspension replacement even if sila nagdesisyon na lifter gamitin for service work. Parang ganun. Note: lifter na nakabitin gulong mo so hyper extended then pag baba, papasok ulit or mag compress.

I don't know if ganun pa din case sa Honda casa ngayon but it was like that for a while per my recollection of "yester-years".

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On another note, akala ko matagal na EPS lahat ng Honda. May power steering fluid pa pala 2010 Civic?

[StockEngine]

Good day po, Wala po talaga akong alam pag dating sa car parts and issue kaya dinala ko sa Honda service for leaks issues, kasi every cold start ko ng sasakyan is nagleleak nang kaonti sa may passenger side. Ngayon naayos na nila ung sa power steering pump, and nung na seal na daw lahat, saka pumutok or nag leak daw sa power steering gearbox na sinasabi.. Ngayon panibagong bayarin nanaman, bakit naman ganon? Dba dapat na oversee nila yung sa gearbox para naprevent ung pag putok dun? Mechanic po ba nila ung may mali dun? additional 22k ako ngayon para dun.. sino po kaya ang pwedeng makausap dun regarding if ung pag service nila ang mali? or sadya na talagang mahina ung part na un kaya di sila liable?

It's an old car. Unfortunately they weren't expecting another leak. How much was the first service charge?

You can complain to honda ph but the car is aged already where they're arent liable.

[Liana]

It's an old car. Unfortunately they weren't expecting another leak. How much was the first service charge?

You can complain to honda ph but the car is aged already where they're arent liable.

Actually pina diagnostic check ko xa sa oil leak which is 800 pesos, check lang. Then kinabukasan nag quote na sila ng mga gagawin, power steering pump overhaul, gaskets, seals, labor umabot ng 11k. so ayun ginawa na nila, the next day tumawag sakin, may nakita nanaman daw leak and need i-silicon which is additional 3.5k, so akala ko okay na... Kinabukas tumawag nanaman at nung inoverhaul daw nila, saka nagkaron ng tagas sa gearbox kaya pinapunta ako dun and pinasilip sakin ung bagong sira (No idea talaga sa kung ano pinagtututuro nila)... inexplain nila na after maayos and maseal ung steering pump, saka pumutok ung sa gearbox.. Kaya nagulat ako, yung kakaunting problem ko sa tagas nung una eh lumala nang lumala, kaya di ko na alam kung tama ba talaga ung nangyayari... ngayon, ung sa gearbox lang is 22k! Adding 11k+3.5k+800, almost 38k aabutin.. Pumayag naman na ako since no choice ako kasi biglang lakas ng tagas, dko na malalabas sa knla un.. Nahihirapan lang po ako tanggapin na ganun ung nangyayari..

[dr. d]

Good day po, Wala po talaga akong alam pag dating sa car parts and issue kaya dinala ko sa Honda service for leaks issues, kasi every cold start ko ng sasakyan is nagleleak nang kaonti sa may passenger side. Ngayon naayos na nila ung sa power steering pump, and nung na seal na daw lahat, saka pumutok or nag leak daw sa power steering gearbox na sinasabi.. Ngayon panibagong bayarin nanaman, bakit naman ganon? Dba dapat na oversee nila yung sa gearbox para naprevent ung pag putok dun? Mechanic po ba nila ung may mali dun? additional 22k ako ngayon para dun.. sino po kaya ang pwedeng makausap dun regarding if ung pag service nila ang mali? or sadya na talagang mahina ung part na un kaya di sila liable?

sinabi nga sa itaas,
if it is an old car, wear and tear issues abound.
one can't really complain of bad repair on parts that they did not touch.

[StockEngine]

Actually pina diagnostic check ko xa sa oil leak which is 800 pesos, check lang. Then kinabukas nag quote na sila ng mga gagawin, power steering pump overhaul, gaskets, seals, labor umabot ng 11k. so ayun ginawa na nila, the next day tumawag sakin, may nakita nanaman daw leak and need i-silicon which is additional 3.5k, so akala ko okay na... Kinabukas tumawag nanaman at nung inoverhaul daw nila, saka nagkaron ng tagas sa gearbox kaya pinapunta ako dun and pinasilip sakin ung bagong sira (No idea talaga sa kung ano pinagtututuro nila)... inexplain nila na after maayos and maseal ung steering pump, saka pumutok ung sa gearbox.. Kaya nagulat ako, yung kakaunting problem ko sa tagas nung una eh lumala nang lumala, kaya di ko na alam kung tama ba talaga ung nangyayari... ngayon, ung sa gearbox 22k+11k+3.5k+1.2k, almost 38k inabot ngaun.. Pumayag naman na ako since no choice ako kasi biglang lakas ng tagas, dko na malalabas sa knla un.. Nahihirapan lang po ako tanggapin na ganun ung nangyayari..

Honda pricing is abit on the higher side. Even my wiper motor was 8000 pesos lol. The steering gearbox cost must have pushed that price to 38k.

[ice15]

kahit saang mechanic mo naman dalhin yan, halos labor lang magkakatalo ng malaki

only issue is sa Casa, puro bago parts na gagamitin nila.

kung sa 3rd party talyer mo yan dinala, baka palitan na nila ng buo (pero surplus) yung power steering mo.

the car is out of warranty and I guess dinala mo sya sa Honda for peace of mind.

halos lahat na sa power steering mo is napalitan... it should work good as new and I'm sure may konting warranty yung trabaho ng Honda

[ice15]

Good day po, Wala po talaga akong alam pag dating sa car parts and issue kaya dinala ko sa Honda service for leaks issues, kasi every cold start ko ng sasakyan is nagleleak nang kaonti sa may passenger side. Ngayon naayos na nila ung sa power steering pump, and nung na seal na daw lahat, saka pumutok or nag leak daw sa power steering gearbox na sinasabi.. Ngayon panibagong bayarin nanaman, bakit naman ganon? Dba dapat na oversee nila yung sa gearbox para naprevent ung pag putok dun? Mechanic po ba nila ung may mali dun? additional 22k ako ngayon para dun.. sino po kaya ang pwedeng makausap dun regarding if ung pag service nila ang mali? or sadya na talagang mahina ung part na un kaya di sila liable?

just to add to my reply above...

nag leak yung pump since its 10 years old

pero yun gother parts nung car mo is 10 years old nadin... palaging hahanapin ng fluid yung weakest link... nataon lang na bumigay naman yung other part ng power steering mo.

[Archerfish]

just to add to my reply above...

nag leak yung pump since its 10 years old

pero yun gother parts nung car mo is 10 years old nadin... palaging hahanapin ng fluid yung weakest link... nataon lang na bumigay naman yung other part ng power steering mo.

I have an existing leak on our CR-V 98. I consulted Honda with it and the recommendation is to replace the whole assembly. The reason they don't want to use repair kits, is that there are instances that another part will fail which is not related to the repaired item but is part of the assembly. The customer will now think that they did a poor job.

So as to avoid this scenario, they always recommend to replace the whole thing.

With the leak of power steering fluid, I just left it as is. I just add fluid every other month. If one day it goes kaput, then that will be the day I'll replace it.

[Liana]

Thank you po sa mga reply, ngayon nafefeel ko na justified naman ung gawa nila dahil sa mga reply niyo po. Thank you very much for this site and to all its member. I think i will give my full trust na lang talaga. My mga nagsasabi din kasi sakin na, tinataga and nag hahanap sila ng papalitan kahit di pa palitin, kaya bigla grabe yung doubt ko kung tama ba na dun ko talaga dinala.. Wala din kasi akong alam na mechanic na kabidaso yung Civic 2010 model dito sa Imus Cavite kaya for peace of mind, sa casa ko na dinala..

[travajante]

I have an existing leak on our CR-V 98. I consulted Honda with it and the recommendation is to replace the whole assembly. The reason they don't want to use repair kits, is that there are instances that another part will fail which is not related to the repaired item but is part of the assembly. The customer will now think that they did a poor job.

So as to avoid this scenario, they always recommend to replace the whole thing.

With the leak of power steering fluid, I just left it as is. I just add fluid every other month. If one day it goes kaput, then that will be the day I'll replace it.

Always sound advice, Brother Bossing![emoji106][emoji120]
If the engine were consuming oil without visible leaks, constant monitoring & topping up might be more economical than, say, a major overhaul. If the engine were leaking everywhere, proper seal & gasket swaps aren't too bad nor tedious a task...
But...Steering leaks? The proper 1-go lazy but sure fix would mean pricey swaps. If the car were deemed too old/unworthy or the budget simply isn't there yet, top up or either of these 2 products are practical options.[emoji4]

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[Archerfish]

Always sound advice, Brother Bossing![emoji106][emoji120]
If the engine were consuming oil without visible leaks, constant monitoring & topping up might be more economical than, say, a major overhaul. If the engine were leaking everywhere, proper seal & gasket swaps aren't too bad nor tedious a task...
But...Steering leaks? The proper 1-go lazy but sure fix would mean pricey swaps. If the car were deemed too old/unworthy or the budget simply isn't there yet, top up or either of these 2 products are practical options.[emoji4]

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I've tried a few "stop leaks" but it didn't work. I'll give this a try, thanks!

[travajante]

I've tried a few "stop leaks" but it didn't work. I'll give this a try, thanks!

No harm...you'll eventually swap them parts anyway.[emoji4]

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[sirkosero]

I have an existing leak on our CR-V 98. I consulted Honda with it and the recommendation is to replace the whole assembly. The reason they don't want to use repair kits, is that there are instances that another part will fail which is not related to the repaired item but is part of the assembly. The customer will now think that they did a poor job.

So as to avoid this scenario, they always recommend to replace the whole thing.

With the leak of power steering fluid, I just left it as is. I just add fluid every other month. If one day it goes kaput, then that will be the day I'll replace it.

Pero kung within warranty, ipipilit naman nila na repair kit lang para mas mura sa kanila

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[Archerfish]

Pero kung within warranty, ipipilit naman nila na repair kit lang para mas mura sa kanila

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Yes! And business as usual. [emoji3]

Somehow it makes sense as the car within warranty won't have as many failing parts compared to a decade old car. Then again, they are there to make money with as little risk as possible.

With the post above in using the lifter, I think it is possible to request they use the other type.

[travajante]

Yes! And business as usual. [emoji3]

Somehow it makes sense as the car within warranty won't have as many failing parts compared to a decade old car. Then again, they are there to make money with as little risk as possible.

With the post above in using the lifter, I think it is possible to request they use the other type.

Dealerships welcome warranty claims coz they still get paid.[emoji4]

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[Archerfish]

Dealerships welcome warranty claims coz they still get paid.[emoji4]

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I think that is why it called at times as, "stealership".
[emoji3]

[travajante]

I think that is why it called at times as, "stealership".
[emoji3]

Theirs is a schemed & forced dependence motorists wanna be unshackled from. Wish drugs were as repulsive.[emoji13]

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