Plug (pasak) then Patch (tapal) on tire?

**yapoy86** · January 6th, 2022 11:09 AM

ah.. may iba kasi shops na nag lalagay ng jack sa suspension arm eh.. sa ibang design, manipis lang yun at hindi kaya mag carry ng bigat ng kotse..

na experience ko din yan recently nung nagpapalit ako ng gulong.. yung technician, balak nya ilagay yung jack dun sa rear suspension arm ng kotse.. eh manipis lang yun.. ako pa nagturo ng correct lift point dun sa likod..

kung di ko nakita, malamang bumaluktot yung suspension arm..

sa sides, along running board madalas ang jack point ng unibody design.. pero hindi advisable na gamitan yan ng crocodile jack kasi may tendency yung crocodile jack to pull the car sideways na pwede mag bend dun sa jack point..

if ever na gagamit ng crocodile jack, make sure na naka position yung jack almost parallel dun sa running board

**uls** · January 6th, 2022 11:18 AM

para patahimikin ang isip

**17Sphynx17** · January 6th, 2022 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by uls

masyado madami multo sa isip

siguro dahil sa financial situation niya lahat ng gagawin sa kotse ingat na ingat

how can suspension get damaged by jacking the car?

so pag na-flat at mag palit ng gulong masisira suspension?

wtf

Per Family and Extended Family's experience with Hondas, if your Honda is around 9 to 10 years old with the stock shocks/suspension, pag nilift siya na hyper extended lahat then bring back down na magcompress sila after ibaba from the lift, need na talaga palit shocks ng Honda at least pag ganun. But given the age, I would expect papalitan din naman talaga (malapit na).

Nangyari na ito anecdotally up to an uncle's Accord that is 2010/2011 model (if memory serves me right).. light used lang, but once inakyat sa lift... ganun din. Common "daw" talaga with Honda shocks with age, pag hyper extended na lift, then mag recompress pag binaba wala na. bibigay talaga. Nangyari din sa various CRVs, Civics and City ng extended family's due to age. I guess yun yung common knowledge na ng mekaniko na din kasi ang nagsabi din sa amin na may "possibility" is yung sa Honda casa pa.

Though, this is not jacking one wheel lang. Talaga lifting the whole car up, all 4 wheels nakalambitin lang kaya mag hyper extended yung shocks

**uls** · January 6th, 2022 11:31 AM

#overthinking

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**dr. d** · January 6th, 2022 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17

Per Family and Extended Family's experience with Hondas, if your Honda is around 9 to 10 years old with the stock shocks/suspension, pag nilift siya na hyper extended lahat then bring back down na magcompress sila after ibaba from the lift, need na talaga palit shocks ng Honda at least pag ganun. But given the age, I would expect papalitan din naman talaga (malapit na).

Nangyari na ito anecdotally up to an uncle's Accord that is 2010/2011 model (if memory serves me right).. light used lang, but once inakyat sa lift... ganun din. Common "daw" talaga with Honda shocks with age, pag hyper extended na lift, then mag recompress pag binaba wala na. bibigay talaga. Nangyari din sa various CRVs, Civics and City ng extended family's due to age. I guess yun yung common knowledge na ng mekaniko na din kasi ang nagsabi din sa amin na may "possibility" is yung sa Honda casa pa.

Though, this is not jacking one wheel lang. Talaga lifting the whole car up, all 4 wheels nakalambitin lang kaya mag hyper extended yung shocks

... but honda does not manufacture its shocks... do they?
is this issue unique to honda, or to the manufacturer of the shock for honda...?
baka naman kapag ibang brand ang gamitin ay tulad na nang iba...?

**Sweetlucious** · January 6th, 2022 01:39 PM

From a punctured tire to buying a set of tires, then napunta sa suspension.

Pag yan napunta sa buying a new car bec. of pasak/patch “problem”.

Ayawan na!!!!

**k_leos** · January 6th, 2022 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by yapoy86

ah.. may iba kasi shops na nag lalagay ng jack sa suspension arm eh.. sa ibang design, manipis lang yun at hindi kaya mag carry ng bigat ng kotse..

na experience ko din yan recently nung nagpapalit ako ng gulong.. yung technician, balak nya ilagay yung jack dun sa rear suspension arm ng kotse.. eh manipis lang yun.. ako pa nagturo ng correct lift point dun sa likod..

kung di ko nakita, malamang bumaluktot yung suspension arm..

sa sides, along running board madalas ang jack point ng unibody design.. pero hindi advisable na gamitan yan ng crocodile jack kasi may tendency yung crocodile jack to pull the car sideways na pwede mag bend dun sa jack point..

if ever na gagamit ng crocodile jack, make sure na naka position yung jack almost parallel dun sa running board

In the video above, the technician was cleaning the rugby he put in the pasak (string plug) (the 2nd repair where he didn't wait for 15 mins before inserting it). The reason he put the car in the car lift levers was kasi plano nya to lift car up by using the blue thing (in the left of the video) in the suspension arms. Pero I stopped them, kasi when it happened to my honda CRV dati, nasira lahat na suspensions, buti na lang mas mura lang replacement ng CRV (but Subaru has no replacement parts, you have to buy original sa casa worth about 50,000 each suspension).

Now lahat na car lift kahit sa tire shop use the blue thing to lift the suspension arm? Puwede rin yun blue lagay sa sides or para sa suspension arm lang yun?

If so, saan exactly sa suspension arm puwede lagay yun so when they change all the tires bukas, ma sure ko hindi ma bend yun suspension arms (or convince them to use manu manu spring jack na lang that came with the car). Matagal kaya I need reasons to insist to them to use the old fashion ways.

If you can please reply with labels arrow pointing out saan exactly the suspension arms puwede nila ma lift the whole Subaru
Forester 2015 edition. Salamat for the tips.

**uls** · January 6th, 2022 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Sweetlucious

From a punctured tire to buying a set of tires, then napunta sa suspension.

Pag yan napunta sa buying a new car bec. of pasak/patch “problem”.

Ayawan na!!!!

pag lagi may multo ang isip kahit bumili ng bagong kotse di parin magkakaroon ng peace of mind

kasi sooner or later meron at meron gagawin dun sa kotse

once na may ginalaw sa kotse... kahit change oil lang...overthink na yan... tama ba ung langis? na-undertighten/overtighten ba ang oil filter?

wala na... the car's ruined

**dr. d** · January 6th, 2022 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by uls

pag lagi may multo ang isip kahit bumili ng bagong kotse di parin magkakaroon ng peace of mind

kasi sooner or later meron at meron gagawin dun sa kotse

once na may ginalaw sa kotse... kahit change oil lang...overthink na yan... tama ba ung langis? na-undertighten/overtighten ba ang oil filter?

wala na... the car's ruined

we should learn to "don't worry, be happy", lest we get caught in the quagmire.
this post-er, apparently, got quagmired.
let's see how he gets out of it.

he started with his tale that his tyre was mal-fixed.
now, he's into the suspension-can-be-destroyed-by-bad-lifting thing.
what's next?

simple cars have their blessings.

**boybi** · January 6th, 2022 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by uls

pag lagi may multo ang isip kahit bumili ng bagong kotse di parin magkakaroon ng peace of mind

kasi sooner or later meron at meron gagawin dun sa kotse

once na may ginalaw sa kotse... kahit change oil lang...overthink na yan... tama ba ung langis? na-undertighten/overtighten ba ang oil filter?

wala na... the car's ruined

Baka nasobrahan or kulang ng 5ml yung langis!