HELP! Air Intake for my GSR?

**OTEP** · May 6th, 2006 01:37 AM

Simota is still an underhood system. It's only cold air when you get air from outside the engine compartment. Underneath the engine compartment, in front, inside the fender (between the inner and outer fender).

Keep in mind that the metal piping also heats up, raising the temperature of your ingested air.

**Nautilus** · May 6th, 2006 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by OTEP

Simota is still an underhood system. It's only cold air when you get air from outside the engine compartment. Underneath the engine compartment, in front, inside the fender (between the inner and outer fender).

Keep in mind that the metal piping also heats up, raising the temperature of your ingested air.

ah ok.. now i understand bro.
pero kung racing filters lang papalitan ko? may improvement na din ba?
thanks.

**luckytruck** · May 6th, 2006 01:12 PM

dinaanan ko na rin yan. did the simota thing on my civic. sounded good. raised the shift point on my automatic by about 300rpm. but if i had to do it all over again. i would spend more money on rims and tires and soundsystem rather than boltons for my engine. if you really want better perfoemance, it would be more reliable to sell your slower car and buy a faster car. i moved from my simota'd civic to a stock VR6 and bought some nice 17 inch rims and tires, masaya na ako

**Nautilus** · May 6th, 2006 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by luckytruck

dinaanan ko na rin yan. did the simota thing on my civic. sounded good. raised the shift point on my automatic by about 300rpm. but if i had to do it all over again. i would spend more money on rims and tires and soundsystem rather than boltons for my engine. if you really want better perfoemance, it would be more reliable to sell your slower car and buy a faster car. i moved from my simota'd civic to a stock VR6 and bought some nice 17 inch rims and tires, masaya na ako

hehe.. ngayon pa nga lang ako na daan sa ganitong stage, kaya medyo excited pa. i get your point bro.

racing filter siguro ok na sa akin, kahit wala na yung aluminum tubing.

and yep i already spent my money on rims and tires. i'm not into speed driving anyway, more on the aesthetic side of driving and efficient gas consumption.

thanks bro.

**quiksie** · May 11th, 2006 12:58 AM

pag gsr hindi mo na kailangan ng aluminum tubing kasi ready na yun kabitan ng airfilter. Isa pa is nakakabit na yun sensor dun sa kabitan ng airfilter

**Nautilus** · May 11th, 2006 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by quiksie

pag gsr hindi mo na kailangan ng aluminum tubing kasi ready na yun kabitan ng airfilter. Isa pa is nakakabit na yun sensor dun sa kabitan ng airfilter

hindi naman magagalaw yung sensor ko once i change into K&N's or Simota right?

hindi ba mas malakas ang intake ng air pag cone filter type? thanks.

**mazdamazda** · May 11th, 2006 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Nautilus

ah ok.. now i understand bro.
pero kung racing filters lang papalitan ko? may improvement na din ba?
thanks.

minimal...

and even so... any gains is negated by the fact that unshielded open-type filters will suck in hot air coming from the engine compartment (resulting in a not so good fuel consumption).

try to also install a heat shield for your open-type filter... and place it as far as possible from the radiator and engine block.

btw, you are trading off better filteration (stock paper filter) against slightly better breathing (foam / gauze filter).

**bhongskie** · May 20th, 2006 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by otep

Keep in mind that the metal piping also heats up, raising the temperature of your ingested air.

pasali po sa tech-talks... very interesting...

sir otep, as what you have said, ano po ba ang mgagiging result when piping heats sa engine? i had given kasi a simota which i just installed yesterday for testing... medyo umingay yung makina, then yun nga, mainit din yung piping... my car is 2 years old from new, baka kasi magkaroon ng diperensya sa engine... better to know the consequences now before i am going to loose my whole engine! my engine is 4g18 sohc, 1.6 lit...

im planning to change the filter with heat shield, does it makes sense?

**niky** · May 20th, 2006 04:53 PM

A heat shield is a good idea... it helps cut down temperature a bit. As for hot piping, it won't hurt your engine but will lower performance (hot pipes=hot air=less power) and may be bad for your sensors in the long run. Some people compensate by insulating
the pipes, others use plastic instead. I just used my stock tubing to avoid problems.

**bhongskie** · May 20th, 2006 05:12 PM

thanks * niky! but does metal things serves as a conductor?

If you think the pipe is hot, that's because at a stop, the ambient engine bay temp rises before it begins to cool down. But when you're running, the flow of air over and inside the tube lowers the actual temp...everywhere. Think "windchill factor" a.k.a., which is cooler: a hot day, or a hot day (same temp) but the wind is blowing?

Second, metal is a better heat conductor than rubber, meaning to say that although it heats up quickly, it also removes heat faster, especially if there's airflow "wicking" away that heat.

That the tube heats up is actually a good sign, because theoretically, it's absorbing the heat from the air passing inside it, therefore cooling the air going into the system.

i am wondering now what is the best?