X1R / Motor Up

**ryandr** · December 13th, 2003 07:43 AM

Hi Guys,

Is X1R good, or is it advisable? I saw it sa TV eh...and gusto ko sana try sa XE95 ko. Wala lang baka good for the engine eh, for protection lang saka baka makaiwas sa gastos in the future...Ok ba yung mga ganon lubricants?? meron pa isa yung motor up...what can you say about this po....and whats the best way para laging maganda takbo nun engine...

salamat po...

**add616reneb** · December 23rd, 2003 08:22 PM

Better to use our " CYBERLUBE" * Php 545/250ml bottle to be mixed up to 5 liter of oil. It is a metal protector/ friction-reducer / all-around lubricant which will prevent engine over-heating and adds power on your engine and saves up to 25% on your fuel costs while extending oil change duration from recommended 5,000km to 20,000km!. Interested? Contact me at (02)8740183 or txt (0926)3031871 for more info/discount! - Rene:nerd:

**Ungas** · December 23rd, 2003 09:18 PM

For your guidance and queries, here are some of the past issues tsikoteers have tackled: (just click on the topic links) :D

- X1-R??

- STP Oil Treatment

- Truth about Oil Additives (AGAIN)

- <<Motor Up - engine additive>>

- Fuel Additives, any comments?

**Ungas** · December 23rd, 2003 09:39 PM

Originally posted by ryandr
...and whats the best way para laging maganda takbo nun engine...

The best way is to follow change oil intervals from your owner's manual. If it says change oil and filter every 5000kms. then by all means follow that rule. I have yet to see a manual wherein adding those oil additives that will prolong the life of oil in your engine.

**notEworthy27** · December 24th, 2003 04:27 AM

nalilito talaga ako...di ko na alam ok ba talaga ang mga additives na ito...sana they would just have it in the oils we put in our engine..parang international standards.. :D

**shadow** · December 24th, 2003 10:22 AM

AFAIK, meron ng additives ang mga engine oils today.....do hinde na kailagan ng mga maglagay ng additives....

**DragOn** · December 26th, 2003 12:44 AM

very informative yung thread ni theveed..very informative indeed.. lalo na yung chapter 14 & 15 hehe

okay since additives are outta here, and we only need to follow the change oil interval, how about ENGINE FLUSHES?would it be better to flush the engine before changing oils to make sure all deposits and sludge buildup go off?

**DragOn** · December 26th, 2003 01:00 AM

and btw, in the ad of x1-r, they say theirs is different since x1R is an ENGINE treatment not an OIL treatment, so theirs is not the same. well, after reading the article posted up by mr theveed, the bottomline is that both are the same and both aint worth your time and money. hehe.

sayang kaka believe na talaga yung ad nila no? haha increased HP pa daw haha and yung pajero na ginamit nila dun na parang abnormal tumakbo, anyone can do it naman basta bigla mo lang apakan yung gas (throttle) pedal and realase and step again

**DragOn** · December 27th, 2003 11:22 PM

ey help naman sa enginge flush haha sige na pls hehe

**Ungas** · December 28th, 2003 07:24 PM

Tsikoteers were divided into 2 groups when being asked about engine flushes. Some say they do in every 10k kms. with new oil or some engine flushing detergents. While others don't.

Here are some of the more recent links:

-how often should you engine flush and add additives??

-how to use engine flush

HTH

**carloi** · December 30th, 2003 07:00 PM

Your best bet, buy a semi-synth if you are on a budget (change every 5K KM), fully synth if you are not change every 10K KM).

Do not use flushes. Think of it this way. Get your glass, lagyan mo ng water and Joy dishwashing fluid, paikot-ikotin hanggang bumula, then just pour it out. Then, fill glass with drinking water. Will you drink the water? Ganyan din ang flush. Naiiwan sa loob ng makina which will degrade your new oil. Flush the toilet lang dapat ang nasa vocabulary mo.

As for additives, they are mostly either PTFE (Teflon) which is a solid which will either be filtered by your filter or get stuck in some places they are not supposed to be which may cause oil starvation or Zinc which most regular oils have. Increasing this will not increase the protection.

**DragOn** · December 31st, 2003 10:15 AM

thanks for all the feedback people! hehe! really usefull! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

**yebo** · January 4th, 2004 11:24 PM

just remember, there's one born every minute. and those advertisers are counting on you to be one of them, suckers!

PET and other ptfe-based additives -- ptfe is teflon. since teflon does not stick to anything*, how will it adhere to the piston rings and cylinder walls? answer to your question - it does not work. i ruined the engine of my first mazda 323 with ptfe, i needed to overhaul after 3 years. i never used it on my second mazda 323 (loyal ko sa mazda ano, naka-2 na 323 ako hehehe!) and the engine lasted 6-1/2 years without overhaul. taxi itong dalawang ito ha so the odometer reading was way-way up!

*teflon on frying pans don't actually adhere to the metal, it is retained by a chemical bond to a polymer coating and it is that polymer that adheres to the metal, not the teflon molecules.

motor up -- reduced the mileage of my lancer from 10 km/liter city driving and 16+ km/l highway down to 6km/l city and 12 km/l highway. took me 2 oil changes before i got my original mileage back. answer to your question - don't use it, it makes your car inefficient.

X1R -- well, i don't believe in those fantastic claims anymore. i learned my lessons a long time ago!

as for the claim of add616reneb for his cyberlube, no comment. same as your ego turbocharger mr. add616reneb? another invention of the year ba ito? 5000km to 20000km oil change? imho, claims that are too good to be true are just like that, not true. question lang on the name, CYBERlube? reminds me of cyberspace, as in VIRTUAL? EXISTING IN ONE'S IMAGINATION?

uh-oh, do i hear mr. yamot posting a reply to my post?!!!

**add616reneb** · January 8th, 2004 07:52 PM

Originally posted by yebo
as for the claim of add616reneb for his cyberlube, no comment. same as your ego turbocharger mr. add616reneb? another invention of the year ba ito? 5000km to 20000km oil change? imho, claims that are too good to be true are just like that, not true. question lang on the name, CYBERlube? reminds me of cyberspace, as in VIRTUAL? EXISTING IN ONE'S IMAGINATION?

uh-oh, do i hear mr. yamot posting a reply to my post?!!!

CYBERLUBE is another Filipino Invention. For more details- Vvsit: http://www.cyberlink.net.ph/cyberlube_call.htm

CYBERLUBE is a quality lubricant (not an additive). It is too good and it is true! CYBERLUBE exists but not worth existing in your virtual imagination.:freak:

**jevy0712** · January 12th, 2004 09:45 PM

ok ung x1R kasi sinubukan ung lubricant n yun sa big bike ng utol ok naman ang kinalabasan eh less vibration kaya ok naman. wala naman masam kung su2bukan nyo kasi its just a oil........

**DragOn** · January 14th, 2004 10:10 AM

better not try it..if ever it provides more damages, its not worth taking the risk in trying to go after that performance gain. taking the RISK of having to do an overhaul defeats the CHANCE of getting that performance gain.

just check out the article of theveed with the title the "truth about oil additives (again), there's alink above, it really answers all questions..from running with no oil to its use in racing..pati sa car maintainance bibles nandun rin haha

yung x1-R nga may sinasabi about it being NASA certified na or something..well, there is also this conspiracy theory that NASA never went to the moon anyway and others..so dont take the risk nalng hehe just buy good oils..yan at least sigurado pa

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