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    will be used on a sedan, a 1995 nissan sentra lec. ano po ba capacity ng scissor jack?nasira po kasi hydraulic jack ko na alligator type, may oil leak, di naman ok i-repair definitely. parang gusto ko na ang scissor jack tuloy. ano po ba marerecomend nyo mga guru. please advise naman mga experiences nyo with both. their advantages and disadvantages with each other. maraming-maraming salamat po.

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    OEM for the LEC is a diamond scissor jack stored in the jack compartment on the right side of the trunk. Jack handle is stored under the fibre board (lawanit) cover of the spare tire well.

    I'd recommend using the OEM jack. It's simple, low maintenance, and since it has it's own dedicated holder in the trunk, it won't rattle or fly around. Isn't it funny that many people find out that their hydraulic jacks are dead when they need it the most? hehehe. On the MB100, we replaced the stock hydraulic bottle jack with a Toyota screw type bottle jack (OEM on Fortuner, Innova, Hilux, etc.). Fits in the same space vacated by unreliable Korean jack, virtually zero maintenance. Effort required to lift vehicle is similar to a scissor jack. Now that I've mentioned it, maybe it's time to check the 10 year old jack on my rig.

    The jacking points of the Sentra (on the rocker panels under the doors) are also designed for a diamond/scissor jack. Nung bumili ako ng surplus para dun sa Vitara, Php350 yata sa Banawe.
    Last edited by OTEP; September 26th, 2006 at 09:41 PM.

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    mas gusto ko hydraulic tamad ako eh at kasi lagi akong nag papalit ng mags, ang dali kasi gamit ng hydraulic kesa sa diamond jack!

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    sir norma..
    ok lang po i repair ang hydraulic jack ninyo normally pag my oil leak ay O-ring ang mga sira safe pa din po .sa mga industrial machineries nga mas mabibigat ang load .after mapalitan ng tamang O-ring ok naman na

    ayaw ko din ng scissors type hassle kung may pilay ka sa elbow or hand ang hirap ang hirap paikutin ,at nakakita na din ako bumigay ang base niya ( di kasi na tapat mabuti ng nagkabit)..buti na lang may kalso

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    Dunno why, pero medieval ang dating sa akin ng diamond jack. It almost looks like a torture device.

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    meron naman scissor type na hydraulic jack, KYK na brand.

    i always carry an alligator jack, mas madali kasing gamitin especially kung bihis na bihin ka, hindi na kelangan abutin hanggan sa jacking point.

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    may procedure ka ba ng pag repair ng alligator hydraulic jack?gusto ko lang sana DIY.how about the refilling ng oil?baka naman meron po kayo dyan procedure, pashare naman po.thanks

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    capacity ng scissor jack is a good 1 ton.. nakalagay sa gilid. meron din atang masmagandang klase upto 2 tons.. okay na yan para sa sedans and small suvs.

    madali ba mag-lock-up ung alligator jack? hirap kasi gamitin ung OEM scissor jack. tagal pinipihit bago mataas ung gulong, sobrang nakakapagod. taas pa naman ng escape.. kaso kapag sa alligator naman, pag sobrang flat na gulong (dapang-dapa) walang hangin mahirap naman ipasok ung jack sa ilalim.

    anyways, I got both sa auto ko kaya di na ko masyado takot. It would also help kung meron kang masmagandang klase ng lug nut wrench.. plus a hollow tube for leverage.





    Naalala ko pa last year lang.. madaling araw, iniwan ko sa gilid ng tagaytay hi-way ung escape ko... di ko kasi matanggal ung lugnuts using the cheap OEM lug nut wrench.. ayun binalikan ko na lang nang umaga kasama ung mga vulcanizing boys.. takot ako baka mawala!!
    Last edited by kiper; September 26th, 2006 at 11:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by normanenoza View Post
    will be used on a sedan, a 1995 nissan sentra lec. ano po ba capacity ng scissor jack?nasira po kasi hydraulic jack ko na alligator type, may oil leak, di naman ok i-repair definitely. parang gusto ko na ang scissor jack tuloy. ano po ba marerecomend nyo mga guru. please advise naman mga experiences nyo with both. their advantages and disadvantages with each other. maraming-maraming salamat po.
    try mo muna ipa-repair. sayang din yan. tama si boeing,

    o-ring lang pinapalitan dyan ng radiator / jack repair shop.

    pa-estimate mo then you decide kung palitin na.

    scissor type - compact but harder to use comp to

    alligator though much bulky.

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    hydraulic (aligator-type)...
    pros: easy lifting, less effort, less time.
    cons: slight added weight to the vehicle, occupies more space to the trunk.

    scissor-type...
    pros: lighter, more space.
    cons: more effort, power, time to lift, reduce/prevent lifting too (kung may konting bungi o kung bungi bungi na talaga.)

    ...but both using on our rides..
    van => hydraulic
    car => scissor-type
    Last edited by rayban7g; September 27th, 2006 at 02:13 PM.

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    since sobrang reliable dapat ang dala natin sa car, bring the scissor. Sa bahay, keep the hydraulic. ;-) Para kapag sa bahay ka palit madali lang... and kung sa road, kampante ka palagi na may magagamit ka :-)

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    I keep a 2 ton alligator (is that right???) at home. Used to carry both the alligator and the scissors in the car, but then I realized I was only changing flats once a year, at most, so I started leaving the alligator at home.

    Comes in handy for swapping mags.
    Last edited by niky; September 27th, 2006 at 02:30 PM.

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    Naalala ko one time sa parking sa may jollibee center malapit sa galleria. Gabi yon, don ako pumarada para makatipid hehe As I was parking biglang may lumapit sa aking group of office girls. Turns out, they had a flat and no jack.

    So I took out the scissors jack from my ride and sa sobrang dilim at sobrang tagal kong inikot-ikot at di pa rin maangat ng maayos yung kotse nila, tinawagan ko nalang yung kaibigan kong nakatira sa cityland para tulungan ako hehehe first time kong makagamit ng scissors jack non. Nong tinuruan kasi akong mag drive, yung stock jack ng w114 ang pinag-aralan ko hehehe ang dali non gamitin, sana lahat ng jack ng kotse ganon nalang

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by rayban7g View Post
    hydraulic...
    pros: easy lifting, less effort, less time.
    cons: slight added weight to the vehicle, occupies more space to the trunk.

    scissor-type...
    pros: lighter, more space.
    cons: more effort, power, time to lift, reduce/prevent lifting too (kung may konting bungi o kung bungi bungi na talaga.)

    ...but both using on our rides..
    van => hydraulic
    car => scissor-type
    I always thought the hydraulic jack was the bottle type jack na parang one big piston lang siya with a flat base? The disadvantage of that is obviously pag flat ka walang clearance. And the tip of the piston rod is small, ingat ingat lang kung san sa kotse nilalagay yung jack points baka mabutas dahil concentrated on a 1x1 inch circle.

    I guess there are alligator jacks (hydraulic too), bottle hydraulic jacks and scissor jacks standard on most Japanese cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbeige View Post
    I always thought the hydraulic jack was the bottle type jack na parang one big piston lang siya with a flat base? The disadvantage of that is obviously pag flat ka walang clearance. And the tip of the piston rod is small, ingat ingat lang kung san sa kotse nilalagay yung jack points baka mabutas dahil concentrated on a 1x1 inch circle.

    I guess there are alligator jacks (hydraulic too), bottle hydraulic jacks and scissor jacks standard on most Japanese cars.
    Oh, I forgot to clarify, I'm pertaining to the 'Aligator' hydraulic jack pala,..hehe!

    (Edited first post mentioned above)
    Last edited by rayban7g; September 27th, 2006 at 02:16 PM.

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    European cars are very easy to jack up. Thanks to idiot proof jacks and idiot proof jacking points.

    Yun nga lang, hindi pwede gamitin sa ibang car yung jack unless may jacking point din na pareho.

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