TJM/ARB bumpers & 4wd Conversion of GU Patrol

**OTEP** · September 6th, 2003 07:40 PM

Naku may threads na tayo about 4wd binding. Pahukay na lang natin kay Ungas. Normal ito sa mga 4x4 na walang center diff or locked ang center diff.

Walang 2L sa transfer case. Imbento lang namin iyon para sa mga naka full manual hubs kasi kahit mag 4L ka dun, 2 wheel drive pa din if you don't lock the hubs.

2H 4H 4L ang pattern.

**ARB** · September 6th, 2003 07:43 PM

as long as walang driveshaft ok lang. just make sure na pwedeng ibalik lang para walang hassle. walang 2L. but maybe may neutral. basta high traction surface you can use 4wd as long as you dont turn. let us say may flood waters and not sure ka no sa ilalim ng water you can shift to 4wd basta straight line lang ang travel mo, pwede naman change lanes ka but not quick change lane. ma feel mo naman yan pag sobra na ang turn kay there is ressistance in you steering wheel.

**boybi** · September 6th, 2003 07:45 PM

meron bang center diff ang patrol?

kung umikot yung flange when i turn the wheels, ibig sabihin meron laman yung bungo?

**OTEP** · September 6th, 2003 07:48 PM

Walang center diff ang Patrol. Usually mga fulltime 4wd vehicles ang meron nito or yung pwedeng 4H sa pavement like Pajero.

Why don't you just open the fill hole for the bungo and poke a stick in para malaman kung may laman?

Para machek na din kung may fluids.

**boybi** · September 6th, 2003 07:49 PM

ARB, medyo nalito ako. yung 2 conditions na sinabi mo (imiikot yung flange and pwede i-shift yung 4wd shifter) kapag ok, pwede ko na bang ipang off-road (4x4)? ang binding sa paved road lang ba?

**ARB** · September 6th, 2003 08:02 PM

yes when the flange turns, meaning may mga gears ang front diff.
kay i have seen new patrols na ang flange ay turning when they move the car. baka kase kinuha na pati front diff internals ang ibang units. just to make sure.
and i mag shift ka and the indicators light up, you will not need to wire up the dash indicator. or this really means that kinunan lang ng casa ng mga parts para maging 2wd na lang ang unit mo.

then you will just add the driveshaft and shifter. as long as high traction yung surface there will be binding when you turn. it may be your driveway, parking lot, etc.

**boybi** · September 6th, 2003 08:04 PM

so wala din kwenta kung maglagay ako ng driveshaft (ito ba yung propeller shaft?) and shifter dahil sa binding? hindi pa rin ako pwede sumama sa mga 4wd adventures ng DC.org?

**OTEP** · September 6th, 2003 08:07 PM

Binding is natural when you use the 4wd on pavement. Lahat kami nag-ba-bind at one time or another so huwag ka mag-alala. Kaya nga 2H on paved roads.

Kapag may 4wd ka na pwede ka na sumama sa adventures.

**boybi** · September 6th, 2003 08:15 PM

Originally posted by OTEP
Binding is natural when you use the 4wd on pavement. Lahat kami nag-ba-bind at one time or another so huwag ka mag-alala. Kaya nga 2H on paved roads.

Kapag may 4wd ka na pwede ka na sumama sa adventures.

kahit 4wd without the front hubs?

naalala ko kasi one time nagpa underwash ako, inikot nung washboy yung front wheels, napansin kong umikot yung flange.
yung shifter nalang ang problema ko.

**OTEP** · September 6th, 2003 08:18 PM

Yes kahit walang hubs. Government models ng Pajero at Strada wala namang hubs and the 4wd system is similar in configuration to yours. Yung dati naming GEN I lagi ding nasa LOCK ang hubs so parang wala na din siyang hub.

Just don't shift to 4H or 4L on pavement.