Electric Bikes

[baludoy]

i've seen some chinese made electric scooters that sells between 25-30k. they don't look at all any different from the gas powered ones (except for the extension cords heheh). then there are the japanese thin framed ones w/ the seat as the bulkiest item on the scooter. i've seen one or two running around here in the village. unfortunately, i have had no experience w/ those scoots yet

but yes, i do think it would be practical for you to own one considering the proximity of your workplace

btw i've seen some ads in the sports section of some newspapers selling those stuff too

[CaRGirL]

ok po ba ito??

Smart Bikes: Electric Powered Vehicles

as per Phil. Star (dated Aug 25), prices range from 20k-60k.

[niky]

Grabe sagad na ako sa maximum load ng ibang models diyan... :lol:

Parang medyo crude yata yung battery tech niya, pero a 20 km range isn't bad if you live close to your work.

[orly_andico]

i read that star article and emailed the supplier luckylou*pldtdsl.net

he is distributing the products from Luyuan and Dones. 31500 yung 350W.

*niky: the Luyuan product is quite high-tech: it has regenerative braking and claims an 80km range, after which it needs to be charged for 3-8 hours. it uses 4x 12V 10Ah batteries, which cost 4800 to replace (need to replace every 2 years). since it's 10Ah, 48V (480Wh) assuming a 25% charging efficiency, one would need ~2kWh to fully recharge it. That's about 20 pesos worth. So even if you can run 40km for 20 pesos (half the claimed range) that's still only 0.50/km. Then assuming you run 3000km a year (or 6000km/2 years) that's an additional 0.80/km for a total opex of 1.30/km.

compare with say a Getz. 12km/L and 43 pesos/L = 3.58/km not counting maintenance. or a Honda XRM, 50km/L = 0.86/L. so the electric scooter is not cheaper than a gasoline powered scooter because of the battery replacement issue.

the only problem right now is that according to the LTO, electric scooters need to be registered but as per the supplier (luis), there is no advice yet to the local LTO offices. so they probably can't be registered just yet. more opportunity for kotong cops i guess..

[ghosthunter]

the problem with the LTO, cops and the dealers is that they all have a different view on the electric scooter.

The dealers point of view is it's not a "motor vehicle" since it does not have a fuel burning engine. The LTO/cops point of view is it looks pretty much like a typical scooter/motorcycle and so they will flag you down to check your registration papers.

[theveed]

Seriously considering a 2-wheel transpo nadin hehe... just computed na at current fuel rates, 6-7K/mo of fuel cost is absurd.

[orly_andico]

*dabid,
we're all in the same boat hahaha.

i have a friend with an AT sentra, because it's AT mileage is around 5-6km/L. so parang 2.0 na manual. anyway he bought a honda wave. it's definitely a lot cheaper to operate. but as he said, don't expect comfort. yes it'll get you there, but you won't be in good condition when you get there. not to mention the scariness of it.

personally i'd rather commute (FX) than 2-wheeled transpo. mas comfy pa rin kahit mahaba pila. just need to get up earlier. safer too..

[mazda626]

compare with say a Getz. 12km/L and 43 pesos/L = 3.58/km not counting maintenance. or a Honda XRM, 50km/L = 0.86/L. so the electric scooter is not cheaper than a gasoline powered scooter because of the battery replacement issue.

Sorry i did not get what you meant by that...

that was actually a nice comparison....but here is how I think when I roughly compare them

gas consumption
car: 6 to maybe 50 km/li in some models
gas bikes: 8 to 100 km/li depending on model
e bike: 100 to maybe 300 km/li

if we factor in battery maintenance cost:
I believe the Getz needs battery replacement also... even the xrm needs regular battery replacement... so battery replacement of 3-4 thousand a month as a maintenance cost every 1-2 years for an e-bike is not a real turn off... so far, after several months of use, my battery is fine. I just had to replace some wire plugs/adaptors for a more reliable connection... a few silicon spray on the moving parts...that is it... it's plug and play!
so
car: about 3000 per year if maintenance free
gas bike: about 500 to 900 pesos / year
e bike: about 3500 to 4500 pesos / 1.5 to 2 years

Oil consumption
car: regular engine oil change...maybe 2 thou / 3 months
gas bikes: regular oil change ...maybe 1 thousand / 3 months
e bike: occasional silicon spray on the moving parts/bearing areas, usually the wheels.... 200 pesos one can lasts a long time.

its nice to do the math...

considering that e-bike users are also helping avoid harmful green house gas contributions...that explain beginning mass extinction of species, drowning polar bears, melting glaciers revealing borrowed islands, extreme flooding and drought globally according to scientists, etc etc.... true or not, I suggest we go easy on e-bike believers....

tire consumption:
car: 2,500-5000/tire times 4 every 2-5 years
gas bikes: 1000-2000/tire times 2 every 2-5 years
e bikes: maybe the same as gas bikes

and so on and so forth ...etc etc which are also all worth considering and discussing.,, i hope somebody does.

I am just glad I am one of those persons who can easily adapt biking into my lifestyle, otherwise... kung wala akong tyaga, siguro ma-iinggit lang ako sa nag ba-bike... i may only rationalize that bikes are accident prone daw (even if actual statistics prove that 4 wheelers have more accidents considering other factors) ... I may also rationalize that bikers are "of a lower kind" daw.... barumbado sa karsada ... (even if in reality, there are a lot of highly educated and upper class people enjoying bikes and who know when to speed up and know when to just cruise along)..hehehe.. so if you are planning to buy an e bike for errands and short distance travel, you can't go wrong.... welcome to the club....expect critics.

[LAebike]

I agree with you. We, both a seller and user of electric bikes, experience user-friendly, maintenance-free vehicle as an alternative to cars, especially on short trips.

Pls. check out our LA e bike More Powerful and More Reliable Brand Electric Bike Philippines - 3602875

The e-bikes battery could last up to 1 year or more, depending on the care and frequency of use. But a Php 7,000.00 worth of battery for 1 year, is better than loading a gasoline every 3 days and registering your motorcycle/car every year with LTO.
We actually have a copy of the memorandum from LTO that electric bicycles do not require registration. What they require are those LEV. Light Electric Vehicle. Electric vehicles that are more than 500Watts, no pedals, etc.

Should you need more info, please log on to www.global-ebikes.com.

[Leeroy Atienza]

try the Imove. Smaller version of imove. When you use this as your mode of trasportation, All eyes will be on you. Eco friendly because its battery operated. check their website

IMOVE- same pronciple as Segway

[cripple_rooster]

This one is a Zero Dual-Sport. American-made, with Lithium-iron batteries.

[anthon05]

my brother bought an ebike from TAiLG MARKETING shop located at starmall edsa. he bought one with a pedal just in case

ma low batt and the other one na mukhang scooter. I tried it may hatak naman kasi 800 watts yung eScooter. sabi ng brod ko

battery last for 3days ran it aroung 25km a day. im also thinking of buying one , i travel 20km a day to the office and house.


good idea kaya ito? if battery is 5 to 7k a year, better pa yata yung d gasolina na lang.