Toyota Fortuner new turbo vs. Montero V-GT

**green eagle** · September 6th, 2012 01:47 AM

Recently read in an ad of, apparently, a new turbo installed in the diesel engine of the Toyota Fortuner.
I think they call it VARIABLE Nozzle Turbo - sounds so much like the VARIABLE-GEOMETRY TURBO (V-GT) installed in the new Monteros.
Reading thru the specs, though, the Fortuner 3.0L diesel variant "only" churns out 163/3400 ps/rpm of horses & 343Nm/1400-3200rpm of pull & compared against the Montero 2.5L V-GT diesel engine. it pales, relatively, in output on both counts (175/4000 ps/rpm & torque of 350Nm/1800-3500rpm).
Is this really a new turbo tech similar to V-GT? If yes, how come it generates lesser output even with a higher engine displacement?
(I am not familiar with the numbers of the previous 3.0L turbo-diesel engine of the Fortuner.)

**zix888** · September 6th, 2012 04:46 AM

the very first batch of fort 3.0 (2005) is already VNT. they didnt change a thing since then. i was expecting that they will bring the 2.5 variants with VNT, pero wala eh(only in thailand), so same engines since the time they were introduced in 2005-present

**amuro** · September 6th, 2012 08:43 AM

sir zix meron na daw d2 pinas fortuner 2.5 g vnt equipped, dko lang ma recall kung saan, nabasa ko lang din sa ibang thread, any way
torque output courtesy of its 2KD-FTV mill, these being 144 PS at 3,400 rpm and 343 Nm at 1,600 to 2,800 rpm. This is a significant increase from the 102 PS and 260 Nm from 1,600 to 2,400 rpm. The 4 SPEED ECT transmission has been retained for the automatic variant, according to data from the website. tanong ko lang cno mas malakas 4D56 crdi DOHC w/o turbo/intercooler VS. 2KD-FTV crdi DOHC w/o turbo/intercooler. tnx

**green eagle** · September 6th, 2012 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by zix888

the very first batch of fort 3.0 (2005) is already VNT. they didnt change a thing since then. i was expecting that they will bring the 2.5 variants with VNT, pero wala eh(only in thailand), so same engines since the time they were introduced in 2005-present

Thanks for the clarification. Apparently, while both technologies enhance output from turbine-powered engines, our V-GT appears to create more output & efficiency given a smaller displaced power plant. Reading further on the technology, the Porsche 911 turbo runs on twin VNTs pala. Interesting...

**CVT** · September 6th, 2012 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by green eagle

Recently read in an ad of, apparently, a new turbo installed in the diesel engine of the Toyota Fortuner.
I think they call it VARIABLE Nozzle Turbo - sounds so much like the VARIABLE-GEOMETRY TURBO (V-GT) installed in the new Monteros.
Reading thru the specs, though, the Fortuner 3.0L diesel variant "only" churns out 163/3400 ps/rpm of horses & 343Nm/1400-3200rpm of pull & compared against the Montero 2.5L V-GT diesel engine. it pales, relatively, in output on both counts (175/4000 ps/rpm & torque of 350Nm/1800-3500rpm).
Is this really a new turbo tech similar to V-GT? If yes, how come it generates lesser output even with a higher engine displacement?
(I am not familiar with the numbers of the previous 3.0L turbo-diesel engine of the Fortuner.)

Might be 7Newt-meter lower, but the torque is available at a lower RPM, 1400 vs. the Montero's 1800.... (Now, the engine displacement is a different story)....

16.8K:laundry:

**jmtyper** · September 6th, 2012 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by CVT

Might be 7Newt-meter lower, but the torque is available at a lower RPM, 1400 vs. the Montero's 1800.... (Now, the engine displacement is a different story)....

16.8K:laundry:

This could translate to a better acceleration for the new Fort but the Monty could always catch-up due to the added power/torque.

Advantage of getting the hp and torque at a lower RPM is that you don't have to floor it therefore more savings on crude. It is interesting to know the FC of the new Fortuner.

**zix888** · September 6th, 2012 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by amuro

sir zix meron na daw d2 pinas fortuner 2.5 g vnt equipped, dko lang ma recall kung saan, nabasa ko lang din sa ibang thread, any way
torque output courtesy of its 2KD-FTV mill, these being 144 PS at 3,400 rpm and 343 Nm at 1,600 to 2,800 rpm. This is a significant increase from the 102 PS and 260 Nm from 1,600 to 2,400 rpm. The 4 SPEED ECT transmission has been retained for the automatic variant, according to data from the website. tanong ko lang cno mas malakas 4D56 crdi DOHC w/o turbo/intercooler VS. 2KD-FTV crdi DOHC w/o turbo/intercooler. tnx

sir afaik, walang lumabas na 2.5 vnt dito satin, yun nga yung disappointment nung mga nag aantay nung facelift version, they thought lalabas yung naka vnt.

**zix888** · September 6th, 2012 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by jmtyper

This could translate to a better acceleration for the new Fort but the Monty could always catch-up due to the added power/torque.

Advantage of getting the hp and torque at a lower RPM is that you don't have to floor it therefore more savings on crude. It is interesting to know the FC of the new Fortuner.

mas maganda talaga yung hp and torque at a lower rpm, but then there is no basis of comparison, 2.5 and a 3.0 liter. yung vnt na 2.5 sana, but definitely it has a different torque graph than that of the 3.0.

**wilcats** · September 6th, 2012 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by zix888

sir afaik, walang lumabas na 2.5 vnt dito satin, yun nga yung disappointment nung mga nag aantay nung facelift version, they thought lalabas yung naka vnt.

We now have the 2.5L D4d with VNT. rated at 144PS & 343Nm of Torque. Intercooler is standard as well.
+ it now comes with a 7" touchscreen head unit with GPS & DVD.

price?

1,484,000 for the A/T
1,381,000 for the M/T

White Pearl color is now available.