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    #4771
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Philippines lang ba ang Montero?

    I have a question, kung mali ang tapak, bakit tatapak ng malakas coming from park/idle/neutral/standstill? Kung brake talaga ang tinatapakan, nobody floors the brake naman so if driver the mistook the gas pedal for the brake pedal diba dapat gentle pa rin? Ako kasi gentle lang ako umapak either brake or gas coming from a stop.
    I would say the "high" (compared to our neighbors who also have Montero/Strada) occurence could be more proof of POOR DRIVER EDUCATION or POOR DRIVING HABIT (or both) in our country.

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    #4772
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Philippines lang ba ang Montero?

    I have a question, kung mali ang tapak, bakit tatapak ng malakas coming from park/idle/neutral/standstill? Kung brake talaga ang tinatapakan, nobody floors the brake naman so if driver the mistook the gas pedal for the brake pedal diba dapat gentle pa rin? Ako kasi gentle lang ako umapak either brake or gas coming from a stop.
    Thailand, Brazil, Venezuela, Bangladesh, India...

    puro 3rd world

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    tingin ko panic apak

    ung accelerator inapakan akala brake... tumakbo... lalo idiniin ang apak

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    #4773
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Thailand, Brazil, Venezuela, Bangladesh, India...

    puro 3rd world

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    tingin ko panic apak

    ung accelerator inapakan akala brake... tumakbo... lalo idiniin ang apak
    eto din tingin ko. naranasan ko na yan minsan. madaling araw tapos inaantok ako, napansin ko bumibilis ako sa pakurba. Gas padin pala tapak ko haha muntik na ako ma-curb

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    #4774
    Quote Originally Posted by tarzegetakizerd View Post
    eto din tingin ko. naranasan ko na yan minsan. madaling araw tapos inaantok ako, napansin ko bumibilis ako sa pakurba. Gas padin pala tapak ko haha muntik na ako ma-curb
    I don't understand why would this happen, nag fail muscle memory?

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

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    #4775
    this has also happened to me. mistaking the silinyador for the brake.
    and to this day, i do not know how i could have made such a mistake.
    suffice to say, "it happens to the best of us."
    heh heh.
    Last edited by dr. d; September 12th, 2020 at 09:18 PM.

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    #4776
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Thailand, Brazil, Venezuela, Bangladesh, India...

    puro 3rd world

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    tingin ko panic apak

    ung accelerator inapakan akala brake... tumakbo... lalo idiniin ang apak
    russia as well... we would have dashcam videos of sua by now if it were a thing.

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    #4777
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    this has also happened to me. mistaking the silinyador for the brake.
    and to this day, i do not know how i could have made such a mistake.
    suffice to say, "it happens to the best of us."
    heh heh.
    On this, ang nagkamali na muscle memory ko was puyat and manual dala. Akala ko brake tinatapakan ko kasi siya yung left-most pedal. Paalis pa lang ako parking, kakastart. pag release ko handbrake nagtataka ako bakit umaabante yung kotse (may slight incline). Hindi ko naisip iakyat yung kaliwang paa ko sa inakala ko brake pedal kaya inaangat ko na lang ang handbrake. Paglingon ko dun ko nakita ang gear lever, "ay oo nga pala, manual nga pala itong dala ko." hehe!

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    Meron na din ako instance na nalaglag yung emergency water bottle ko sa isang biyahe ko at napailalim sa likod ng brake pedal. Di ako makapreno nun sa provincial road buti na lang hindi marami kotse, nadahan dahan ko papunta sa shoulder at nakadownshift para makaengine brake kahit papaano. Walang lugar ng bottle holder ang Revo kaya nasa upuan lang nakapatong, di kasya sa door pocket. Buti ngayon medyo hirap ka na makahanap na walang cup holder ang kotse.

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    On another note, yung Innova na sumampa sa Alterra (if I'm not mistaken) automatic sa news alam na "driver error". Walang alinlangan na ganun sasabihin. Hindi man lang nila hint ang SUA as a possibility.

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    #4778
    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post

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    On another note, yung Innova na sumampa sa Alterra (if I'm not mistaken) automatic sa news alam na "driver error". Walang alinlangan na ganun sasabihin. Hindi man lang nila hint ang SUA as a possibility.
    because it's a toyota!
    patented ng monty ang SUA.
    tongue-in-cheek.

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    #4779
    Ang haba pala ng report nito. Nasa page 101 ang most likely cause daw.

    https://mmpc.ph/wp-content/uploads/2...estigation.pdf

    (page 82) What isthe cause of SUA incidents on the Montero vehicle?

    * We have identified only one plausible explanation for the SUA incidents involving sudden undemanded acceleration together with perceived inability to stop the vehicle. This is pedal misapplication, where the driver is pressing the accelerator pedal while believing that their foot is on the brake.

    * Initial investigations into whether ergonomic design may make the vehicle more susceptible to pedal misapplication is presented in Appendix 5 but the outcome is not conclusive.Pedal lateral positioning was considered to be a possible cause, but other vehicles in the Philippines with a similar pedal layout have a low incident rate so other factors must be involved.Recommendations for additional investigation are given in Section 10.

    (Page 101) Appendix 5 Ergonomics Investigation

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    #4780
    Quote Originally Posted by bxr monkey View Post
    Ang haba pala ng report nito. Nasa page 101 ang most likely cause daw.

    https://mmpc.ph/wp-content/uploads/2...estigation.pdf

    (page 82) What isthe cause of SUA incidents on the Montero vehicle?

    * We have identified only one plausible explanation for the SUA incidents involving sudden undemanded acceleration together with perceived inability to stop the vehicle. This is pedal misapplication, where the driver is pressing the accelerator pedal while believing that their foot is on the brake.

    * Initial investigations into whether ergonomic design may make the vehicle more susceptible to pedal misapplication is presented in Appendix 5 but the outcome is not conclusive.Pedal lateral positioning was considered to be a possible cause, but other vehicles in the Philippines with a similar pedal layout have a low incident rate so other factors must be involved.Recommendations for additional investigation are given in Section 10.

    (Page 101) Appendix 5 Ergonomics Investigation
    i have always believed, that SUA is human error.

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