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    #1251
    Quote Originally Posted by ramones283 View Post
    Rumor: More likely a compact MPV. Gas engine with 7 seats which will compete against the mobilio, avanza, and ertiga.
    so a diesel engine as 4D56 standard for L300, L200 and advie will be phased out and will be replaced by gas engine to comply with Euro4 standards?.

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    #1252
    Quote Originally Posted by Gian Paulo View Post
    so a diesel engine as 4D56 standard for L300, L200 and advie will be phased out and will be replaced by gas engine to comply with Euro4 standards?.
    For sure Mitsubishi PH will retire their legendary 4D56 as compliance with euro 4 standardization. Hoping for to retain their Van, Adventure or Fuzion with newer Mivec Diesel Engine.

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    #1253
    Hmmm, 4D56 has a common rail version that's used in Indonesia...

    Although I'm hoping they use the a "de-tuned" version of the 4N15

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    #1254
    Quote Originally Posted by ramones283 View Post
    For sure Mitsubishi PH will retire their legendary 4D56 as compliance with euro 4 standardization. Hoping for to retain their Van, Adventure or Fuzion with newer Mivec Diesel Engine.
    So matutulad din sa REVO na pinalitan ng de gas na Avanza. Welcome nga kung magkaron ng innovation na magawan ng paraan ang lahat ng 4D56 engine na maging compliant sa Euro4 diesel.

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    #1255
    Quote Originally Posted by Gian Paulo View Post
    So matutulad din sa REVO na pinalitan ng de gas na Avanza. Welcome nga kung magkaron ng innovation na magawan ng paraan ang lahat ng 4D56 engine na maging compliant sa Euro4 diesel.
    Innova ang pinalit ng Toyota sa Revo. Avanza is smaller than both.

    Sent from my D5833 using Tapatalk

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    #1256
    Quote Originally Posted by Vincenzo View Post
    Hi to all Advie lovers, my ride is adventure gls sport, pahingi namn ako ng tips pano i-activate ang gps?

    tnx
    update lang, hindi ko rin kasi mapagana yung sa akin,,newbie pa kasi,, thanks

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    #1257
    Gud PM sir/s. Ask ko lang po ilang liters capacity ng radiator ng Advie Kasama na yung reserve tank? TIA

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    #1258
    Quote Originally Posted by Gian Paulo View Post
    so a diesel engine as 4D56 standard for L300, L200 and advie will be phased out and will be replaced by gas engine to comply with Euro4 standards?.
    Actually Euro 4 standard compliance is one reason why they are opting on creating MPV's like the Avanza, Passo Sette(Alza), Livina, Mobilio and other similar vehicles, however, the main reason to the shift in design is the cost-effectiveness of the FF layout of such compact MPV's (save for the Avanza) along with the monocoque chassis design. A ladder on monocoque frame similar to the Crosswind and the Advie will require the use of a torquey high displacement engine and in other countries, a higher displacement engine amounts to a higher cost unlike in the Philippines whereby the road tax rate is based on the weight of the car (California DMV system) than engine displacement.

    In Malaysia for instance, there's only a 2.0 Innova available, and no diesel option, that is because the 2.0 will cost some RM380(X 11.50 Petots)= 4370 petots. The Diesel trim will cost a cool RM880 or 10120 petots a year, those rates exclude the price of comprehensive insurance, but if you only have to haul 7 souls and does not require the size of a full-size MPV, you can either buy a Passo Sette, Avanza, or Livina or a Mobilio that will only set you back a cheap and cheerful RM90 or 1035 petots/year.

    Going back to the Advie, I'm not sure if somebody has asked this question, but it boggles the mind why at this day and age the Advie still doesn't have ELR seatbelts in the 2nd and the third row, the Advie could've been Mitsubishi's cash cow in other markets if it only has ELR seatbelts in the mid section and at the back...

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    #1259
    Euro4 Diesel fuels :

    Any immediate effect in our 3 decade old 4D56.?

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    #1260
    Quote Originally Posted by heightdeprived View Post
    however, the main reason to the shift in design is the cost-effectiveness of the FF layout of such compact MPV's (save for the Avanza) along with the monocoque chassis design. A ladder on monocoque frame similar to the Crosswind and the Advie will require the use of a torquey high displacement engine and in other countries, a higher displacement engine amounts to a higher cost unlike in the Philippines whereby the road tax rate is based on the weight of the car (California DMV system) than engine displacement.
    I totally agree with you that the monocoque chassis design and FF layout will benefit the manufacturers since they will save costs...

    The system is also lighter which means better fuel efficiency numbers. They can also share the platform with other cars (e.g. Mobilio - BRV - Brio - Amaze share the same platform, same is also done by Subraru with ALL their cars/SUVs) which means savings in design and testing.

    BUT, the Crosswind and Adventure has been available for so long, the $$ spent for platform design/research/development should have been earned by now.

    Honestly, I think Mitsubishi and Isuzu should just update their engines... And maybe include safety features (like ABS)

    As for Malaysia having only a Petrol version of the Innova... Gas is so cheap there (government subsidized) I'm actually surprised every time I see a diesel vehicle

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