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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by AC View Post
    ako din pajero vote ko..
    easy to maintain ang pajero.. gulong lang siguro at glowplugs ang madugong bilhin.. hehe

    i have a 15 yr old pajero... still very reliable... and i still love it:D
    tama ka dyan sir yung gulong talaga ang madugong bilhin dyan... pero kung duguin ka man every 5yrs. lang... he.he...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AC View Post
    ako din pajero vote ko..
    easy to maintain ang pajero.. gulong lang siguro at glowplugs ang madugong bilhin.. hehe

    i have a 15 yr old pajero... still very reliable... and i still love it:D
    tama ka dyan sir yung gulong talaga ang madugong bilhin dyan... pero kung duguin ka man every 5yrs. lang... he.he...

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Silvertec View Post
    thanks all for the replies.

    right now conflicted talaga ako kasi gusto ko talaga ng pajero pero hesitant talaga ako bumili ng 2nd hand. medyo mura rin kasi benta ng mayari so medyo may additional kaba kasi baka may hidden troubles na di kaagad makikita, but i've checked it and it is a local unit.

    kakalito do i follow the practical route and choose the mirage? or sundin ko yung lust for my dream car?

    the only thing that can solve my problem right now is kung mabenta na sa iba yung pajero, but i also dont want to think about the "what ifs", mura narin kasi benta ng mayari so nakakapanghinayang kung di ko grab yung opportunity.

    parang naging situation ngayon is ano yung susundin ko, yung utak ko which is telling me mirage, or yung desire ng puso ko which is the pajero

    btw im planning on keeping whatever vehicle i end up with for keeps. thanks

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    thanks all for the replies.

    right now conflicted talaga ako kasi gusto ko talaga ng pajero pero hesitant talaga ako bumili ng 2nd hand. medyo mura rin kasi benta ng mayari so medyo may additional kaba kasi baka may hidden troubles na di kaagad makikita, but i've checked it and it is a local unit.

    kakalito do i follow the practical route and choose the mirage? or sundin ko yung lust for my dream car?

    the only thing that can solve my problem right now is kung mabenta na sa iba yung pajero, but i also dont want to think about the "what ifs", mura narin kasi benta ng mayari so nakakapanghinayang kung di ko grab yung opportunity.

    parang naging situation ngayon is ano yung susundin ko, yung utak ko which is telling me mirage, or yung desire ng puso ko which is the pajero

    btw im planning on keeping whatever vehicle i end up with for keeps. thanks

    sir magkano ba ang benta sa PAJERO?

    odo reading?

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    #23
    seller is asking 680 but i know he will accept 640-650

    almost 65k odo

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    seller is asking 680 but i know he will accept 640-650

    almost 65k odo

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    #24

    There is something I can't put my finger on.

    5-year old Pajero, 65Km mileage at P680K...

    IMO, too good to be true...

    Well, we are all mature here, we should know what to do....

    17.8K:snow:

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    #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Silvertec View Post
    seller is asking 680 but i know he will accept 640-650

    almost 65k odo
    65k sa odo tapos 5 years na yun sasakyan? Kung ako, go na ako dyan. Masusing inspection nalang kelangan mong gawin dyan para sure na walang hidden defects. Lahat naman ng 2nd hand, may konting problema na yan. Wag lang sana yan na yun madugo ang problema. Test drive mo muna kung ok. Check mo brakes, ilaw, radyo, acceleration, alignment, etc. Check mo engine kung may mga oil o water leaks na yan.

    Kung glow plugs at gulong ang sinasabi ni AC na madugo sa maintenance, well somehow yes. PERO, it will depend sa glow plug o gulong yan. May mga glow plugs na class A lang na mura, but it won't last that long. Yun magagandang glow plugs is twcie lang ng presyo ng class A (may post ako nito sa Pajero thread). Sa gulong, 5 years naman tinatagal niyan most of the time. Minsan, umaabot pa ng 7, depende sa condition. Tsaka kelangan lang sa diesel alaga lang sa PMS. Every 5k ang change oil kung mineral oil, then 10k kung fully synthetic gamit mo.

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    a lot of people have been telling me nga na mura na. but for me, di naman sya sobrang mura talaga. i think its just priced right. kasi kung sa ibang bansa lang basehan natin, fully depreciated na ang 5 year old vehicles. personal vehicle kasi ng nagbebenta ang pajero, di sya buy and sell or 2nd hand car dealer. and i think dito sa pinas, ang mga buy and sellers and 2nd hand car dealers ang nag di-dictate ng 2nd hand vehicle prices, so tataasan talaga nila. a friend of mine nga bought last 2011 a 2006 innova g diesel for 480k, direct from seller also. sabi ng marami ang swerte daw nya, pero i think he just bought the vehicle at the right price. kasi you can also buy a 2nd hand gasoline version of the same car for almost the same amount, dont tell me depreciation costs would differ just because a car is diesel or gasoline fed?

    the buy and sellers and 2nd hand dealers are just playing the supply/demand route.

    btw anong ibig sabihin ng 17.8k?

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    a lot of people have been telling me nga na mura na. but for me, di naman sya sobrang mura talaga. i think its just priced right. kasi kung sa ibang bansa lang basehan natin, fully depreciated na ang 5 year old vehicles. personal vehicle kasi ng nagbebenta ang pajero, di sya buy and sell or 2nd hand car dealer. and i think dito sa pinas, ang mga buy and sellers and 2nd hand car dealers ang nag di-dictate ng 2nd hand vehicle prices, so tataasan talaga nila. a friend of mine nga bought last 2011 a 2006 innova g diesel for 480k, direct from seller also. sabi ng marami ang swerte daw nya, pero i think he just bought the vehicle at the right price. kasi you can also buy a 2nd hand gasoline version of the same car for almost the same amount, dont tell me depreciation costs would differ just because a car is diesel or gasoline fed?

    the buy and sellers and 2nd hand dealers are just playing the supply/demand route.

    btw anong ibig sabihin ng 17.8k?

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    Quote Originally Posted by testament11 View Post
    65k sa odo tapos 5 years na yun sasakyan? Kung ako, go na ako dyan. Masusing inspection nalang kelangan mong gawin dyan para sure na walang hidden defects. Lahat naman ng 2nd hand, may konting problema na yan. Wag lang sana yan na yun madugo ang problema. Test drive mo muna kung ok. Check mo brakes, ilaw, radyo, acceleration, alignment, etc. Check mo engine kung may mga oil o water leaks na yan.

    Kung glow plugs at gulong ang sinasabi ni AC na madugo sa maintenance, well somehow yes. PERO, it will depend sa glow plug o gulong yan. May mga glow plugs na class A lang na mura, but it won't last that long. Yun magagandang glow plugs is twcie lang ng presyo ng class A (may post ako nito sa Pajero thread). Sa gulong, 5 years naman tinatagal niyan most of the time. Minsan, umaabot pa ng 7, depende sa condition. Tsaka kelangan lang sa diesel alaga lang sa PMS. Every 5k ang change oil kung mineral oil, then 10k kung fully synthetic gamit mo.
    honestly what im really concerned about the unit is the automatic trans. is there a way of knowing na bibigay or almost bibigay na ang a/t? kailan ba dapat magpalit ng glow plugs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by testament11 View Post
    65k sa odo tapos 5 years na yun sasakyan? Kung ako, go na ako dyan. Masusing inspection nalang kelangan mong gawin dyan para sure na walang hidden defects. Lahat naman ng 2nd hand, may konting problema na yan. Wag lang sana yan na yun madugo ang problema. Test drive mo muna kung ok. Check mo brakes, ilaw, radyo, acceleration, alignment, etc. Check mo engine kung may mga oil o water leaks na yan.

    Kung glow plugs at gulong ang sinasabi ni AC na madugo sa maintenance, well somehow yes. PERO, it will depend sa glow plug o gulong yan. May mga glow plugs na class A lang na mura, but it won't last that long. Yun magagandang glow plugs is twcie lang ng presyo ng class A (may post ako nito sa Pajero thread). Sa gulong, 5 years naman tinatagal niyan most of the time. Minsan, umaabot pa ng 7, depende sa condition. Tsaka kelangan lang sa diesel alaga lang sa PMS. Every 5k ang change oil kung mineral oil, then 10k kung fully synthetic gamit mo.
    honestly what im really concerned about the unit is the automatic trans. is there a way of knowing na bibigay or almost bibigay na ang a/t? kailan ba dapat magpalit ng glow plugs?

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    #28
    Sa 65Kkm at sa kapal ng gulong ng Pajero maaring di pa nagpapalit. Kaya sa yo aabutan ng palit, soon. Kung nagpalit na sya, swerte mo at sigurado makapal pa gulong nyan (80~90% pa siguro).

    Pero sa presyo, mukhang may nakatagong kalansay dyan. Swerte mo pag, wala. Since local unit, most likely 100% casa maintained. Check mo records kung tugma sa sinasabi.

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Silvertec View Post
    honestly what im really concerned about the unit is the automatic trans. is there a way of knowing na bibigay or almost bibigay na ang a/t? kailan ba dapat magpalit ng glow plugs?
    No, wag kang matakot sa auto tranny niyan. Di naman yan agad agad nasisira. We have a 10 year old FM and ok pa ang auto tranny niya. Sa glow plugs naman, kung hirap umistart, provided malakas ang battery, then its time na para mag-check ng glow plugs. Usually, kung maganda ang glow plugs, kahit 3 years, tatagal pa yan. Meron nga kaming glow plugs dito na kinakalawang na sa tagal pero pag ni-check eh gumagana pa.

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Silvertec View Post
    a lot of people have been telling me nga na mura na. but for me, di naman sya sobrang mura talaga. i think its just priced right. kasi kung sa ibang bansa lang basehan natin, fully depreciated na ang 5 year old vehicles. personal vehicle kasi ng nagbebenta ang pajero, di sya buy and sell or 2nd hand car dealer. and i think dito sa pinas, ang mga buy and sellers and 2nd hand car dealers ang nag di-dictate ng 2nd hand vehicle prices, so tataasan talaga nila. a friend of mine nga bought last 2011 a 2006 innova g diesel for 480k, direct from seller also. sabi ng marami ang swerte daw nya, pero i think he just bought the vehicle at the right price. kasi you can also buy a 2nd hand gasoline version of the same car for almost the same amount, dont tell me depreciation costs would differ just because a car is diesel or gasoline fed?

    the buy and sellers and 2nd hand dealers are just playing the supply/demand route.

    btw anong ibig sabihin ng 17.8k?
    A 2006 Innova G Diesel in 2011 is five years old ++ (if Jan 2006 then six years old).

    Cost of a G Diesel is about 0.9M. (manual ba or automatic?)

    In 5 years, it has depreciated its value to about 0.9M*0.9^5= P531K.
    In 6 years, it has depreciated its value to about 0.9M*0.9^6= P478K
    So, the price of P480K is just about right. +/- some percentages....

    However, a Pajero is about P1.5M then.

    So, in 5 years, it has depreciated its value to about 1.5M*0.9^5 = P885K

    This is where we are coming from....

    Kasi, IMO, kung totoo lahat ang sinasabi sa iyo,- normally, sa kamag-anak iyan o sa isang matalik na kaibigan ipinapasa... O, talagang walang alam o pakialam sa sasakyan ang nagbebenta,- like 10 ang sasakyan katulad ni bro.OB.....

    Well, you know better since you have a direct access to the merchandise, bro.

    Don't get me wrong, bro. I am just saying "take everything with a grain of salt"...

    17.8K:snow:
    Last edited by CVT; January 11th, 2013 at 02:49 PM.

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