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  1. Join Date
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    #3141
    ^brad kaya mataas ang resale value ng honda kasi mataas ang kuha mo sa kanila

    ganun lang kasimple yun lalo na pag dating sa depreciation valuation

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    #3142
    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    more cylinder will require more gas & will give you more POWER & SPEED but will not necessarily give you more mileage, it will simply get you faster to your destination (assuming there is no traffic)

    in case there is traffic, the 4 cylinder will burn more fuel while stationary on the road, with more fuel burned then you will have less gas to reach your destination (less mileage)

    i hope you get to see the point with regards to traffic conditions, fuel economy, mileage & their correlation with each other
    If we want to save money, fc is not the only factor, Anong point if you got a better mileage if your monthly amortization is higher than the other Car,.? 3 years down the road, yung maintenance is Mahal, 3 years ago I have the same problem, I was torn between altis and lancer, lancer is a bang for buck while altis more fuel efficient than lancer. I ended up with a lancer, friend ko kumuha ng altis, now yung altis sira aircon, cost 50k sa casa, shock absorber, almost 10k daw ang isa, my lancer wala pa akong ipinapaayos, mas fuel efficient nga Lang altis. Compare sa lancer.. the bottom line, how much money did I save compare to his more fuel efficient car? To think I have more mileage, now I'm over 75k on odometer, his altis is only at 45k.. I'm not a Toyota hater or a fan of mitsu, I even own before a 95 gli which serve me for more than 10years with no complain...

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    #3143
    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    more cylinder will require more gas & will give you more POWER & SPEED but will not necessarily give you more mileage, it will simply get you faster to your destination (assuming there is no traffic)

    in case there is traffic, the 4 cylinder will burn more fuel while stationary on the road, with more fuel burned then you will have less gas to reach your destination (less mileage)

    i hope you get to see the point with regards to traffic conditions, fuel economy, mileage & their correlation with each other

    its quite absurd to expect 21km/li in the city traffic condition bcoz that number is for pure high-way traffic condition cruising at a speed less than 80km/hr
    Ang basehan ko ay yun gasoline - energy , power , ........converted yan sa distance na na tatravel mo. .kung di ka gagamit ng gasoline paaano tatakbo yun gulong at makaka layo. The more power the more distance ..........Yun fuel economy papasok lang sa metal friction, air drag or car weight , nakaka bawas yan sa distance na dapat ma travel mo. Kaya yun mag less metal friction , car weight at air drag mas fuel efficient sila. Kaya yun malalaking oto gas gasler kasi mabibigat , may air drag at malaki metal friction sa engine.Kung ma de design mo yun 4 cylinders with less metal friction , less air drag and less car weigth , panalo yun lahat ng energy coming from gasoline converted sa distance travel yan .Kasi less friction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    more cylinder will require more gas & will give you more POWER & SPEED but will not necessarily give you more mileage, it will simply get you faster to your destination (assuming there is no traffic)

    in case there is traffic, the 4 cylinder will burn more fuel while stationary on the road, with more fuel burned then you will have less gas to reach your destination (less mileage)

    i hope you get to see the point with regards to traffic conditions, fuel economy, mileage & their correlation with each other

    its quite absurd to expect 21km/li in the city traffic condition bcoz that number is for pure high-way traffic condition cruising at a speed less than 80km/hr
    Ang basehan ko ay yun gasoline - energy , power , ........converted yan sa distance na na tatravel mo. .kung di ka gagamit ng gasoline paaano tatakbo yun gulong at makaka layo. The more power the more distance ..........Yun fuel economy papasok lang sa metal friction, air drag or car weight , nakaka bawas yan sa distance na dapat ma travel mo. Kaya yun mag less metal friction , car weight at air drag mas fuel efficient sila. Kaya yun malalaking oto gas gasler kasi mabibigat , may air drag at malaki metal friction sa engine.Kung ma de design mo yun 4 cylinders with less metal friction , less air drag and less car weigth , panalo yun lahat ng energy coming from gasoline converted sa distance travel yan .Kasi less friction.

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    #3144
    Quote Originally Posted by caloyphil View Post
    Thank you for your advise, the truth shall set us free ! Sa mga subcompact na cars ayaw ko rin ng fiesta , eon , i10 or suzuki. Sa top car manufacturer ako pumipile , honda , toyota or Mitshu , wala nang iba ! Taas kasi resell values ng big 3 at matitibay , proven na sila eh.
    Quote Originally Posted by caloyphil View Post
    Nice advise, malamang ganun na nga , pero baka second hand na lang para nasa budget na 500k kaysa naman bumile ng brand new car na di pa subok di pa alam ang mga darating pang bugs. Depreciation is no problem kapag second hand na, nag depreciated na. Brand New ? , pag labas ng casa depreciated agad hehehe Anyway , I still hope na may solve sana agad ng mitshu yun mag problema ng mirage , baka mag bago isip ko.
    Sa umpisa pa lang po pala madami na kayong negative na puna eh di sana di na kayo nagpareserve para di na kayo naabala di po ba?sana nuon pa kayo kumuha ng second hand...dami nyong ayaw eh...alam nyo namang bago lang ulit ilalaunch sa market ang mirage eh bakit nagpareserve pa kayo...ngayon maaasar na naman kayo pag nagrefund dahil mabagal magprocess ang mitsu....

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    #3145
    Quote Originally Posted by nyvlem View Post
    If we want to save money, fc is not the only factor, Anong point if you got a better mileage if your monthly amortization is higher than the other Car,.? 3 years down the road, yung maintenance is Mahal, 3 years ago I have the same problem, I was torn between altis and lancer, lancer is a bang for buck while altis more fuel efficient than lancer. I ended up with a lancer, friend ko kumuha ng altis, now yung altis sira aircon, cost 50k sa casa, shock absorber, almost 10k daw ang isa, my lancer wala pa akong ipinapaayos, mas fuel efficient nga Lang altis. Compare sa lancer.. the bottom line, how much money did I save compare to his more fuel efficient car? To think I have more mileage, now I'm over 75k on odometer, his altis is only at
    45k.. I'm not a Toyota hater or a fan of mitsu, I even own before a 95 gli which serve me for more than 10years with no complain...

    ano lancer iyan cedia model iyan sa iyo yung bolay face na triangle.

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    #3146
    grabe naman si caloy phil eh kung ayaw niya ng mirage eh di jazz siya pampagulo lang siya eh.

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    #3147
    Quote Originally Posted by calix0305 View Post
    with all due respect to the designers and engineers of the 3 cylinders engines, dapap ngayon pa lang wala ng modelo na ganito kung hindi stable.
    Nakuha mo na unit mo? sakin nasa casa na.

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    #3148
    You just imagine if bumper to bumper traffic then sobrang tagal ng daloy ng traffic, sa tingin mo makakakuha ka ng 22 km/l na FC? i doubt kung mga 10 km/l ka pa with Aircon ON.

    Para lalong makatipid, sa Japan meron option na Auto Stop & Go (AS&G). Sa atin hindi pwede AS&G dahil hindi bagay sa tropical weather. Example, if traffic then sobrang init tapos biglang engage yung AS&G, hindi mo magagamit yung aircon dahil engine off na.

    to compare sa 1.4 rio

    lifted from mikmik

    Quote Originally Posted by mikmik316 View Post
    Here is the latest. Warning lang sa mga gusto pa bumili ng gas guzzling Kia Rio HB:

    Oct. 8, 26.8 liters, 183.5km = 6.85km/L
    Oct 13, 30 liters, 210km = 7km/L
    Oct. 19, 18.2 liters, 110km = 6.04km/L
    Oct. 22, 18.2 liters, 116km = 6.37km/L
    Oct 25, 18.6 liters, 139km. = 7.47km/L
    Oct. 30, Blaze, 30 liters, 188km. = 6.27 km/L
    Nov. 8, Blaze, 25 liters, 152km. = 6.08km/L
    Nov. 12, Fuelsave, 10 liters, 66km = 6.6km/L
    Nov. 14, Fuelsave, 20 liters, 150km. = 7.5km/L
    Nov. 17, Blaze, 25 liters, 175km = 7km/L
    Nov. 21, Silver, 29 liters, 201km = 6.93km/L
    Nov. 26, Silver, 19 liters, 107km = 5.63km/L
    Nov. 29 Fuelsave, 9.5 liters, 51km = 5.37km/L

    If my last fill-up registers anything below 6... i will be storming again Columbian's office to file a complaint...

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    #3149
    *caloyphil. magrefund ka na para maprocess na yan. i doubt worth it pa pag bibili ka dahil puro negative na ang nasa isip mo

    wala naman yan lahat sa FC. ang prius nga napakatipid, ang mahal naman ng SRP. lalo ka pang lugi. kahit pa sabihin nating mas matipid ang yaris, jazz, talo ka naman sa SRP, which i think mababawi rin ng low SRP ng mirage. example lang yun ah. syempre mas matipid ito

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    #3150
    Quote Originally Posted by caloyphil View Post
    1.5 siya at walang matic ,eto specs ng yaris : 1.5-Liter 4-Cylinder DOHC 16-Valve Variable Valve Timing with intelligence (VVT-i); 106 hp * 6000 rpm; 103 lb.-ft. * 4200 rpm

    Hinde siya direct competitor
    Huh? Walang matic ang yaris? Kelan pa?

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