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[jut703]

Why do many Pinoys dream of going abroad, making it big, eating expensive food, owning material stuff. Then when they've done all that, they dream of going home, living in a simple house, eating rice and dried fish.

Ako I've decided that I want to stay in the country, and be part of the force that builds the nation to become one of the largest economies by 2050 (assuming predictions are right).

I understand that I can make bigger bucks abroad than here, but I have the privilege of getting work that actually pays decently and allows me to live comfortably.

It's unfortunate that such privilege isn't available to a lot of other Pinoys which is why they find that they have no other choice than to find work abroad. Unfortunately, a lot of them who have a taste of foreign currency get blinded by the drastic improvement in their earning power, which often leads to short term materialism.

I'm very surprised to know that a lot of OFWs who earn hundreds of thousands a month don't even have investments or clearly defined plans for retirement. After a few decades of toiling abroad, they realize they haven't saved enough to last until they die, so ayun balik sa lumang pamumuhay. Financial education is critical for these people.


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[ZENMasterTYL]

Wondering kung ano na magandang nagawang mabuti para sa bansa nung mga walang tigil magcomplain sa lahat ng ginagawa ng gobyerno dito sa forum.

Pag nagpost kasi sila parang ang galing galing nila. Sayang naman kung puro salita lang


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baka nawalan ng kita

[_Cathy_]

Why do many Pinoys dream of going abroad, making it big, eating expensive food, owning material stuff. Then when they've done all that, they dream of going home, living in a simple house, eating rice and dried fish.

I used to be idealistic and refused to leave the country. I've turned down an opportunity to live abroad when I was younger.

When I got older, I decided that I will get out of this country the first chance that I get to live in North America or Europe. It's not about the money but because of the corrupt government, the lack of culture and poor standard of living in Manila.

I have friends that live extremely comfortable lives here in Manila but chose to live abroad. There's just so much more choices abroad. eg I love dogs but there are limited breeds available here, I love music and most artists that come to visit here are laos na , I love food and the ingredients and restaurants available here are so limited. I've few friends left here in Manila. They are scattered abroad na. None of them plan to go back.

Manila is so expensive too relative to the income of Filipinos. Mura lang dito labor at mga items sa Divisoria. It's criminal how items from abroad are marked up here. Even export items are so expensive. Thanks again to the Philippine government. Teka, I am beginning to sound like someone else na

[CVT]

Ako I've decided that I want to stay in the country, and be part of the force that builds the nation to become one of the largest economies by 2050 (assuming predictions are right).

Agree with you dear bro.

Another major reason for us,- I/we want to contribute to our nation building... In spite of our painful experiences,- we still have faith in our country..... That is exactly what I told my relatives who would pull me out from here many years ago.... And the one earlier when job opportunities were presented to wife and myself (later)....Pro Deo Et Patria.

I hope that we are contributing (hey!- we properly pay our taxes....)...

Recently, I could have given/transferred technical expertise and job opportunities for a group of Filipinos, were it not for the high cost of electricity and the lack of industry support here in our country. We could have been only the 4th country in the world doing this type of technical manufacturing, but sadly not today.... I could be hoping beyond hope,- but hey,- we'll keep on trying!

We all want this country to be a better place for our kids....

God bless the Philippines!


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[jut703]

I used to be idealistic and refused to leave the country. I've turned down an opportunity to live abroad when I was younger.

When I got older, I decided that I will get out of this country the first chance that I get to live in North America or Europe. It's not about the money but because of the corrupt government, the lack of culture and poor standard of living in Manila.

I have friends that live extremely comfortable lives here in Manila but chose to live abroad. There's just so much more choices abroad. eg I love dogs but there are limited breeds available here, I love music and most artists that come to visit here are laos na , I love food and the ingredients and restaurants available here are so limited. I've few friends left here in Manila. They are scattered abroad na. None of them plan to go back.

Manila is so expensive too relative to the income of Filipinos. Mura lang dito labor at mga items sa Divisoria. It's criminal how items from abroad are marked up here. Even export items are so expensive. Thanks again to the Philippine government. Teka, I am beginning to sound like someone else na

In other words, gusto mo maging first world

I guess I haven't reached that point yet so I can't relate. Like your younger self, I still have a lot of idealism left in me.

I still think that being Filipino means something and it's worth sticking it out with this nation.


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[_Qwerty_]

time flies so fast..

halos mag 20 years na din ako nag work.. ano nga kaya kung i went abroad 15 years ago.. hmmm i guess i wouldnt know.. pero what I know is I made the right decision to stay.. ok naman ang buhay dito sa Pinas.. mahirap.. madami utang.. pero masaya at kasama ang pamilya at mga kaibigan..

[Jun aka Pekto]

I used to be idealistic and refused to leave the country. I've turned down an opportunity to live abroad when I was younger.

When I got older, I decided that I will get out of this country the first chance that I get to live in North America or Europe. It's not about the money but because of the corrupt government, the lack of culture and poor standard of living in Manila.

I have friends that live extremely comfortable lives here in Manila but chose to live abroad. There's just so much more choices abroad. eg I love dogs but there are limited breeds available here, I love music and most artists that come to visit here are laos na , I love food and the ingredients and restaurants available here are so limited. I've few friends left here in Manila. They are scattered abroad na. None of them plan to go back.

Manila is so expensive too relative to the income of Filipinos. Mura lang dito labor at mga items sa Divisoria. It's criminal how items from abroad are marked up here. Even export items are so expensive. Thanks again to the Philippine government. Teka, I am beginning to sound like someone else na

I posted about it because my wife and many of her friends from the PH value very much the lifestyle they left behind even after finding success here. They reminisce about older times. Most are girlie talk. I eavesdrop once in a while.

[_Cathy_]

In other words, gusto mo maging first world

I guess I haven't reached that point yet so I can't relate. Like your younger self, I still have a lot of idealism left in me.

I still think that being Filipino means something and it's worth sticking it out with this nation.


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Yes. I want to live in a country where I could take public transportation, see where my taxes are going, watch a musical or concert without paying an arm and a leg for it, have easy and cheap access to reputable newspapers and up to date medical technology etc. I want to live in a society where MOST people are polite and courteous.

I do hope you don't lose that idealism. The country still needs people like you. Ako, I give up. I raise my hands in defeat.

[_Cathy_]

I posted about it because my wife and many of her friends from the PH value very much the lifestyle they left behind even after finding success here. They reminisce about older times. Most are girlie talk. I eavesdrop once in a while.

Jun aka Pekto, you got a lot of us thinking

What kind of lifestyle do they miss?

My Aunties/Uncles are based in the US but they come home often. They like the laid back lifestyle but they would miss the US once they start dealing with government and customer service

[bmacavanza]

Hi Cathy

I think Australia is for you. The people here are honest, polite, and courteous.

Yes. I want to live in a country where I could take public transportation, see where my taxes are going, watch a musical or concert without paying an arm and a leg for it, have easy and cheap access to reputable newspapers and up to date medical technology etc. I want to live in a society where MOST people are polite and courteous.

I do hope you don't lose that idealism. The country still needs people like you. Ako, I give up. I raise my hands in defeat.

[_Qwerty_]

malakas pa din discrimination sa Australia..

Hi Cathy

I think Australia is for you. The people here are honest, polite, and courteous.

[Monty]

As they say, the grass is always greener.... whichever side you are on.

[[archie]]

malakas pa din discrimination sa Australia..

Very true. You have to have thick skin to survive.

[EQAddict]

Denmark or norway is for you then.

As for me... I love my life here with all its Pluses and minuses. All in all Pinas pa rin ako.


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[Jun aka Pekto]

Jun aka Pekto, you got a lot of us thinking

What kind of lifestyle do they miss?

I have mostly bits and pieces.....

Live in the province in a nipa house by the shore with fresh produce from the outdoor market and fresh seafood right from the fishing boats. Anywhere away from the crowds of Metro Manila would do. The farther the better.

Have the easier life of commuting (instead of driving their own car) with cheap public transportation in abundance.

Of course, they also miss food I'm not particularly fond of: dried fish (yucky stench, but, I occasionally eat some), balut, etc. Amazing because they have all kinds of meats, fruits, veggies, other foodstuffs in the fridge; everything a first-world country can provide. And yet, they're having a grand time gathered around cold rice with chopped tomatoes and dried fish. The noise among my wife and her friends is deafening. But, I know they're having fun. Once in a while they'd ask me to join in. But, if I see them eating with their hands, I tend to pass.

Stuff like that.....

[leodawesome]

I already lost hope for our country at this stage of my life. (Mid 20s). Main culprits are of course, the 'system', and our people itself. I'm an avid idealist, and sadly it also dented a negative perception towards majority of our kababayans. If i can be this disciplined, courteous, law abiding, and a lot more, why can't many of us be too? Kahit simpleng pagsingit sa mga flyover ng lahat ng klaseng sasakyan, at simpleng pagsingit sa pila sa MRT, grabe ang suklam ko. I'm not perfect but I'm trying. I have flaws too, but I know they're forgivable.

Australia, New Zealand, or even Canada is nice. But I instantly fell inlove with Japan. I think almost all I am missing here can be found there. People, government, cars, you name it. Plus my wife is Japanese, so I'm all in it to migrate there before I turn 30. Japan shares a bit of racism too, but I think I can live with that. They're not that racist, racist naman, and have yet to experience one. Ayoko lang ng earthquakes and tsunamis.

[jon777]

Been there, done that.....

I lived in NYC for more than 5 years from 2006 to late 2011. Wifey and I had great careers being in the healthcare industry but ultimately went back to the Philippines in 2011 because of our family businesses, children, family ties and the need that i have to give something back to the country which had been so good to our family.

Being Tsinoy, I always had that persistent entrepreneurial itch when I was in NYC and not being contented in being an employee. I was a healthcare consultant for a healthcare insurance company the last 2 years of my stay. Although I enjoyed working in an american corporate setting, i still report to executives who are above my level of authority. Some are rude and would not hide the fact that they view you as "not in their level" with me being an Asian. Feeling nila dahil caucasian sila, they are better than you. Glass ceiling and prejudice exist not only in corporate america but as well as in everyday living. Not being served or delayed serving at restaurants experienced by my cousins happens although I personally have not experienced it since my wife and I rarely venture outside urban areas.

More important is the fact that i want my kids and grand kids around when wifey and I grow old. Minsan nga niloloko ko si wifey na itago na lang US passports ng mga anak ko para di nila alam na dual US/Phil citizens sila hehee..... I am the only one who is not a US citizen and see no immediate need for that.

Masarap tumira at mag work sa US in the early stages of your married life like what I and wife did. Luckily for us, we have opportunities in this side of the globe that afforded us to come back.

If one has the means, iba pa din dito sa Pilipinas.... ako na mismo magsasabi.....

There is NO place like Home....

[jut703]

There is NO place like Home....

Thing is, some people no longer consider the Philippines as home.

They think of it as a house, but not a home. Kaya ok lang na lumipat. They have their reasons why they've become so apathetic already, pero iba iba tayo. We probably go through the same corrupt inefficiencies and lack of discipline, but we have different tolerances for it.

On a side note, this topic makes me want to relive my fantasy of applying to become a traffic enforcer. Kahit isang intersection lang mapilit kong magkadisiplina mga tao, matutuwa na ko. Yun nga lang baka ipagripo ako ng mga jeepney driver. Or perhaps the system would eat me alive.


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[CVT]

We've made our choice,- dito kami....



Pero, ang ganda talaga (magbakasyon) sa labas...


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[Jun aka Pekto]

If my wife decides to continue her family logging/lumber/furniture business in the PH, I just know I'll be spending a lot of time in the PH. From what I can gather, if one has a steady source of funds (eg retiree/pensioner), living in the PH is quite nice.

My wife said I could spend every day at a resort while she concentrates on business. Hmmm. Tempting......

To be honest, I would love to live in Batanes, even do amateur weather there as a hobby. Have my own observing site.