Quote Originally Posted by screws View Post
I think the amount of calories works for you because thats probably very close to your TDEE. For most people though, 4k-5k is alot of calories. Hell, even 3k is alot of calories.

I agree that an individual might not need to cut calories but just need to fix his macros and change his food sources. Most here though is probably way off their macros, eating 'dirty' and in surplus. Some might be eating just enough carbs but might be over eating on proteins and fats hence the shabby shape. Theres no going around when losing weight other than consuming lesser calories than you need (caloric deficit). Thats the reason why people on diet that consist mainly on greens lose weight... greens has very little calories.
5k is small compared to michael phelps 12k on training days.