Migrate or not to migrate to the U.S.

**donbuggy** · August 13th, 2017 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Monseratto

Finding work above minimum wage is very hard, you need someone to sponsor you there.

It won't be easy for the first generation immigrant, but their children will have a better future.

Ingat lang sa white supremacists.

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**yebo** · August 14th, 2017 12:15 AM

mon-tue-wed-thu-fri work work work.
sat laundry, clean house, groceries, anticipated mass because you know tomorrow you will not have time
sunday cook everything you will eat on mon-tue-wed-thu-fri. sleep early.
repeat.

unless you have a job waiting for you that has good pay. 19 years ago when i was there it was $60k per year to be middle class. baka $100-120k na ngayon.

**_Cathy_** · August 14th, 2017 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by yebo

mon-tue-wed-thu-fri work work work.
sat laundry, clean house, groceries, anticipated mass because you know tomorrow you will not have time
sunday cook everything you will eat on mon-tue-wed-thu-fri. sleep early.
repeat.

unless you have a job waiting for you that has good pay. 19 years ago when i was there it was $60k per year to be middle class. baka $100-120k na ngayon.

But I guess that's the same routine for people here who don't have helpers?

**Jun aka Pekto** · August 14th, 2017 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by yebo

mon-tue-wed-thu-fri work work work.
sat laundry, clean house, groceries, anticipated mass because you know tomorrow you will not have time
sunday cook everything you will eat on mon-tue-wed-thu-fri. sleep early.
repeat.

unless you have a job waiting for you that has good pay. 19 years ago when i was there it was $60k per year to be middle class. baka $100-120k na ngayon.

That's not our routine. Most people work their 8 hours and go home at 4 or 5 PM. Commutes take 15-20 minutes and are usually stress-free. There's light outside until more or less 8 PM, longer if farther north. We get groceries done once or twice a month which can be any day of the week.

Laundry and cleaning house gets done when we get home. It's not like we're tired or anything. Far from it. The majority of clothes are permanent press. While the clothes are in the washing machine and dryer, the wife prepares a meal in the kitchen. Or, if she's not in the mood to cook, she orders delivery.

The majority of house cleaning involve the bathrooms, vacuuming the carpet, or dusting furniture plus a wet mop for non-carpeted surfaces. An hour's worth of cleaning, tops.

That's why my wife resumed taking night classes. She feels she has too much free time during evenings.

Saturday? I do yard work while the wife and kids go to the mall. No point in going with them because I get bored with their girly stuff. On the way home, they go to evening Mass. That way, they can shop again uninterrupted all day Sunday.

My yard work is usually early morning and late afternoon. In between is normally too hot. I spend my time indoors getting class work done or indulging in PC games. Or, I just chill out and watch sports on TV.

I hit the gym on base right after work and shower there too. I also take classes several days a week.

**dreamur** · August 14th, 2017 07:17 AM

What would be the ideal average gross pay (before tax) in order to live a comfortable life (with mortgage on a 2 to 3 BR house, and a car)? Is $100k p.a. considered middle income earner in the US?

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**CVT** · August 14th, 2017 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by dreamur

What would be the ideal average gross pay (before tax) in order to live a comfortable life (with mortgage on a 2 to 3 BR house, and a car)? Is $100k p.a. considered middle income earner in the US?

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**Jun aka Pekto** · August 14th, 2017 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by dreamur

What would be the ideal average gross pay (before tax) in order to live a comfortable life (with mortgage on a 2 to 3 BR house, and a car)? Is $100k p.a. considered middle income earner in the US?

Good question. I've seen retirees who own a house in our neighborhood and has say, a Honda CR-V.

They don't work. They live off their retirement pension and perhaps Social Security (~$700/mo).

**dreamur** · August 14th, 2017 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto

Good question. I've seen retirees who own a house in our neighborhood and has say, a Honda CR-V.

They don't work. They live off their retirement pension and perhaps Social Security (~$700/mo).

Sounds like $1000 is too low considering a mortgage on the house and car. $700 is just enough to pay for rent in fact. Of course the state matter.

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**yebo** · August 14th, 2017 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto

Good question. I've seen retirees who own a house in our neighborhood and has say, a Honda CR-V.

They don't work. They live off their retirement pension and perhaps Social Security (~$700/mo).

2 persons, no rent or mortgage, car fully paid, medical costs all provided by social security/military. hope they don't get a flat tire.

pero for a young family of 4, 22 years ago "poor" was $1200/month (i'm not guessing, i saw this on the news in 1995 in Illinois kaya nga nasabi ko sa uncle ko "uy di pala ako poor" to which my aunt replied "and you are single not married with 2 kids"). they need milk, they are renting, have car payments, etc. maganda pag nasa military at least di na nila iisipin ang medical insurance.

**Wh1stl3r** · August 14th, 2017 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto

Good question. I've seen retirees who own a house in our neighborhood and has say, a Honda CR-V.

They don't work. They live off their retirement pension and perhaps Social Security (~$700/mo).

I'd probably still work as a greeter or something at a local Walmart. Do they still have those?