Mataas ba magpasweldo ang TELCO Company?

[jim]

ICB,

Me Oracle 11i na ba? o ilalabas pa lang. Oracle dba po kasi ako.

what ICB meant was Oracle 11i Apps and Financials. sa RDBMS side Oracle 10g ang latest (10.0.X.X).

[badkuk]

ILuvDetailing: Oracle DBAs OT question, where did you guys study Oracle? Di naman ata inooffer yan sa schools dito kasi sa sobrang mahal ng software na yan. So on job training ba? or what? thanks.

i'm not a certified DBA, pero i do have a working knowledge of oracle DBA tasks. Self study lang usually; nothing's stopping you from downloading oracle RDBMS and installing on your pc -- the license states na kung for development purposes unlimited use sya; they start charging once you use it in production. Andami ring documentation sa oracle website mismo. Konting tiyaga sa pagbasa, then T.A.E.(trial and error) method from that point on. Forums and certain sites also help a lot for the more unusual topics/problems(orafaq.com, dbaforums.com)

Some of the higher level companies should offer training to their employees, pero oracle training and certification doesn't come cheap; at the very least they'll ask you to sign something that ties you to the company for the next 3-5 years or so.

imho, certification is no substitute for experience; i've met a lot of so-called "certified engineers"(oracle consultants included) who couldn't do s#!t once things went wrong na wala sa user manual. By the hour na ang bayad, in $$$ pa, tamad pa magtrabaho, la namang kwenta. A lot of times kami kami na rin ang naghanap ng paraan, and they end up *asking us* for the solutions. Anyways...

Ang sa akin lang, basic features ng oracle are simple enough; once you delve into distributed databases, clusters, performance tuning, yan ung madugo B).

[badkuk]

naku! sinong nagkamaling bumili ng oracle financials?!? Oracle makes great rdbms software, no doubt. It's their other products that worries me B)

di pa ako kampante sa oracle 10g; parang buggy pa sya. We get some GPFs once in a while

[IceColdBeer]

Thanks Jim! Whew kailangan ko ng mag umpisa, kung matuloy at di maudlot. Marami din kasing politika dito sa office eh.

[jim]

I agree with badkuk, experience comes first then kung swerte kang makapag-train then ayos!! As mentioned by badkuk once you delve into performance tuning at clustering madugo pero dyan naman tumataas ang rate mo as a dba! I'm lucky I had several in-house trainings sa tuning and I have already implemented a lot of clustered databases and servers in the past. Kaya naging mas confident ako na humingi ng mataas na rate pag may tumatawag sa akin. :D

IceColdBeer, good luck. Sana matuloy na talaga yan. Welcome to the Oracle World

[IceColdBeer]

Thanks again jim!
Before this ERP brouhaha, we were using a system developed in-house in the US. I am the one handling this system as well as support our offices all over Asia, but it has already come to age and we need to upgrade to be able to cope with the extensive growth and expansion that we have right now.
At least marami ako mapagtatanungan dito hehe ;)

[5Speed]

ICB, congrats....manlibre ka naman....kahit coffee lang..hhehehehe.. teka san ba opis mo dito sa HK?

[hens]

Sorry guys..OT lang po..

150K? whew!, ano ba pinaguusapan natin dito? HKD? or PHP?..kakainggit naman yan..pinagaaral kasi ako dati ng nanay ko..tigas ng ulo ko eh.hehehe

[IceColdBeer]

OT: 5Speed, wala pa naman baka maudlot na naman pag may nakialam na mga politikos dito hehe.

hens, how i wish in HKD yun hehe. Si 5Speed malamang ganun ang kinikita ;) Usually, mga top level position ganun ang kinikita. Yung wife ng boss ko kaedad ko lang and she's earning around 150K HKD a month. VP siya ng human resources ng Morgan Stanley.

[5Speed]

oist ICB, kung ganon ang kinikita ko (150K HKD), baka me barabus benz na rin ako kagaya ni Hens....

hmmmm teka dapat pala eh si Hens ang manlibre.....hehehehe

oooopsss OT na tayo....