GUNS: Russia VS USA

**chookchakchenes** · June 9th, 2014 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by Vodka

my username kinda gives it away already hahahaha

OT lang.

May napanuod ako dati 1990s gag show sinasabi kung ano gender/classification sa alcoholic drinks na iniinum mo.

Pale pilsen - tambay, OSY out of school youth

Super dry - pokpok

Vodka - dirty old gay

**foresterx** · June 9th, 2014 08:50 PM

dami wrong info dito.

USA has better guns than russia, russia only has the ak47 to brag about while USA has tons. the ak47 is one of the best and most reliable gun till today no doubt about that. but modern m16's are just as reliable as AK's now plus a lot more accurate than an AK, they have piston type m16's which uses the same platform as an AK. if i had to choose between an ak and m16 i'd choose the m16 over and over again because ammo is easy to find, parts and magazines are also easy to find unlike the ak where ammo,parts and magazine are pretty damn hard to find, accessories for the m16 are easily available in the market and you have tons of options that you can do. plus the m16's operation is pretty easy and everyone who has fired a rifle probably knows how to operate one, that's why new rifles that are coming out today are copying the m16's operation.

i'd love to have an ak someday because it's an all time classic gun but if we're going to war i'd rather grab an m16. if you want something that is more accurate than an m16 and has the stopping power of an ak get an m14.

**kimpuy30** · June 9th, 2014 09:07 PM

M16s got more range than AKs due to lighter 5.56 ammo.

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**foresterx** · June 9th, 2014 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by kimpuy30

M16s got more range than AKs due to lighter 5.56 ammo.

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actually no, 7.62's are more effective long range than 5.56 that's why there are more sniper rifles that uses 7.62 as ammo than 5.56. it's the ak that isn't accurate not the ammo.

**Vodka** · June 9th, 2014 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by chookchakchenes

OT lang.

May napanuod ako dati 1990s gag show sinasabi kung ano gender/classification sa alcoholic drinks na iniinum mo.

Pale pilsen - tambay, OSY out of school youth

Super dry - pokpok

Vodka - dirty old gay

so you're saying russians are dirty old gays?

i think your username is ridiculously gay

**Vodka** · June 9th, 2014 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by foresterx

dami wrong info dito.

USA has better guns than russia, russia only has the ak47 to brag about while USA has tons. the ak47 is one of the best and most reliable gun till today no doubt about that. but modern m16's are just as reliable as AK's now plus a lot more accurate than an AK, they have piston type m16's which uses the same platform as an AK. if i had to choose between an ak and m16 i'd choose the m16 over and over again because ammo is easy to find, parts and magazines are also easy to find unlike the ak where ammo,parts and magazine are pretty damn hard to find, accessories for the m16 are easily available in the market and you have tons of options that you can do. plus the m16's operation is pretty easy and everyone who has fired a rifle probably knows how to operate one, that's why new rifles that are coming out today are copying the m16's operation.

i'd love to have an ak someday because it's an all time classic gun but if we're going to war i'd rather grab an m16. if you want something that is more accurate than an m16 and has the stopping power of an ak get an m14.

well don't forget the Makarov pistol. afaik it has the lowest parts count of any pistol. with a solid reputation for reliability. again it's not really about the "best" coz the definition of "best" depends on the criteria used

russian weapons had to be reliable under adverse conditions, and had to be cheap to manufacture, hence the stamped metal parts. should be inherently simple to the extent that they could be rather unrefined. the AK and Makarov definitely met those objectives

then of course you have to consider cost. AK's are simply a lot cheaper. period. so you could equip more of your guys for the same money. coz quantity has a quality of it's own hahahaha.

but if money wasn't an issue i'd probably get a bullpup...

**SiRbossR** · June 9th, 2014 10:29 PM

Just a question, ano difference nung M14/16 sa M4A1?

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**kimpuy30** · June 9th, 2014 11:21 PM

M4 and M16 differs on barrel length. M4 carbine barrel length is 14.5 inches while M16's barrel lenght is 20 inches. Both chambers 5.56 mm NATO. While the M14 chambers the 7.62 mm NATO and is being used as a DMR or designated marksman rifle.

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**badkuk** · June 9th, 2014 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by foresterx

dami wrong info dito.

USA has better guns than russia, russia only has the ak47 to brag about while USA has tons. the ak47 is one of the best and most reliable gun till today no doubt about that. but modern m16's are just as reliable as AK's now plus a lot more accurate than an AK, they have piston type m16's which uses the same platform as an AK. if i had to choose between an ak and m16 i'd choose the m16 over and over again because ammo is easy to find, parts and magazines are also easy to find unlike the ak where ammo,parts and magazine are pretty damn hard to find, accessories for the m16 are easily available in the market and you have tons of options that you can do. plus the m16's operation is pretty easy and everyone who has fired a rifle probably knows how to operate one, that's why new rifles that are coming out today are copying the m16's operation.

i'd love to have an ak someday because it's an all time classic gun but if we're going to war i'd rather grab an m16. if you want something that is more accurate than an m16 and has the stopping power of an ak get an m14.

There must be a reason why this is a favorite of terrorists. tingin ko sa black market madaming piyesa. And i'm guessing the (un)traceability of the gun is also a factor?

Dunno if this was an urban myth, but the M-16 or the bullet(or both) is supposedly designed to rip out a kilo of flesh when it hits an enemy

How true?

Watch the Modern Marvels episode on the M-16, very interesting stuff

**niky** · June 10th, 2014 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by crosswind

I will choose the AK47 anytime plus rather than the M16 which results sometime
in jam during firefight.
actually there are upgraded versions
of the AK47 called the AKM then followed by tha AK74
developed by Mikhail Kalashnikov

Jamming not really an issue unless you're in a steaming hot jungle with grit or mud inside the mechanism.

As foresterx says... the AK is not a very accurate gun.

Your chances of surviving a firefight are much greater if you can hit your opponents and incapacitate them first. I'd rather have a more accurate gun and not drop it in the mud like an idiot.