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  1. Join Date
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    #51
    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    External influence, good governance & the people are just part & parcel of the whole deal. Without one or the other it will all fail. Don't try to just give credit to one and neglect the other.

    By the way, haven't you noticed that the governments of Japan & HK were largely dictated by the American & British?

    Which Asian countries are you referring to?
    If you refer to external influence as foreign investments, they I agree it is important, together with good governance and a productive population.

    Which Asian countries am I referring to?
    Name your pick. Being #2 in the 1960's, this means we were ahead of Indonesia, Thailand, South Korea, Malaysia, etc. So when these countries are now ahead of us, lahat ito, because of America???

    It seems relevant to point out the current political events in our country (wiretapped tapes, etc.):

    Panay POLITIKA and selfish interests and crab mentality, kaya hindi tayo umuunlad.

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    #52
    Let us also not forget that America did help us get back to our feet after the war. Although the extent is debatable, the point is we were #2 behind Japan in terms of progressiveness.

    Analogy:
    To continually blame America for "lack of support" to us is like a spoiled child who blames his parents for not giving him enough inheritance. We were given enough to stand on our own two feet after the war. If we fail due to bad governance, corruption, and politics, let us be man enough to admit it.

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    #53
    To continually blame America for "lack of support" to us is like a spoiled child who blames his parents for not giving him enough inheritance. We were given enough to stand on our own two feet after the war. If we fail due to bad governance, corruption, and politics, let us be man enough to admit it.
    good analogy but wrong setting. a good analogy would be a child left on the streets on his/her own with no financial support, no providence, no anything bec. his/her parents made him independent at such a fragile age.

    same is true with the late 40's, immediately after the war, America granted us independence with our country in such a fragile state, no economy, a country in ruins. baka nakalimutan mo, Japan ransacked the entire Asian region in WW2. Hongkong, Singapore & Japan overtook all of us mainly bec. after the war, the big brothers (British & America) took care of their priced colonies. America had a knew
    "ampon" and took care of them more than us. IF one would look at it analytically, why would a great & proud country like America rehabilitate an arrogant nation like Japan and at Axis power? Is it because they (Japan) accumulated enough wealth (like the Yamashita treasure) that is worthy of America's attention? Is it because America had a conscience bec. they almost annihilated Japan with their Atomic Bombs?
    But that's another story.

    *** never did believe the Yamashita Treasure being here in the Phils. There maybe some. But I believe that the big chunk of it is already in Japan.

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