If madilim pa okay lang naman using the old route, pero pwede ka rin mag Ecotourism. The Ecotourism road is useful pag may araw na. Walang street lights dito

If coming from Manila, you can stopover in Lucena, then possible next is Pares King sa may Sta Elena, Cam Norte ata. You can't miss it kasi there are lots of buses na eto stopover nila