Isuzu Hi-Lander owner's (Please participate for us to form a group)

**dr. d** · April 5th, 2015 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by aioshin

Hi Isuzu Hilander Owners, Tsikoters,

I got this random experience on my Xtrm hilander, when I attempt to do change gear, before I can transfer to another gear, the engine shut off. One time, I am running fifth gear, and try to change to 4th, before I can engage to 4th, engine shuts down, another one is from 3rd gear, tried reducing to 2nd, before I able to go to 2nd, engine shuts off, same thing, though upon starting it back, it starts, but I need to step the accelerator to pump some fuel... Could it be a dirty fuel filter? no chance to do the checking yet, but just in case someone here got the same experience, kindly advise.

thanks.

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Hi Isuzu Hilander Owners, Tsikoters,

I got this random experience on my Xtrm hilander, when I attempt to do change gear, before I can transfer to another gear, the engine shut off. One time, I am running fifth gear, and try to change to 4th, before I can engage to 4th, engine shuts down, another one is from 3rd gear, tried reducing to 2nd, before I able to go to 2nd, engine shuts off, same thing, though upon starting it back, it starts, but I need to step the accelerator to pump some fuel... Could it be a dirty fuel filter? no chance to do the checking yet, but just in case someone here got the same experience, kindly advise.

thanks.

perhaps it's fuel starvation. when was the last time you replaced your fuel filter?
that would perhaps be the cheaper problem. the other problems might be more expensive..

**aioshin** · April 5th, 2015 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by dr. d

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perhaps it's fuel starvation. when was the last time you replaced your fuel filter?
that would perhaps be the cheaper problem. the other problems might be more expensive..

I replaced the fuel filter 6 months ago. I will try to replace it this week. The more expensive one, what could it be?

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Originally Posted by dr. d

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perhaps it's fuel starvation. when was the last time you replaced your fuel filter?
that would perhaps be the cheaper problem. the other problems might be more expensive..

I replaced the fuel filter 6 months ago. I will try to replace it this week. The more expensive one, what could it be?

**dr. d** · April 5th, 2015 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aioshin

I replaced the fuel filter 6 months ago. I will try to replace it this week. The more expensive one, what could it be?

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I replaced the fuel filter 6 months ago. I will try to replace it this week. The more expensive one, what could it be?

the fuel injection system.

**miked** · April 21st, 2015 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by ronball

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Ok here's the update...after my negative findings on my DIY tests on "Parasitic Load Draw" I decided to take the case to an auto electrician. He conducted the same tests that I did and found out that the alternator is the culprit, since the Alternator's Voltage Regulator is working fine. He was so sure that the alternator is not producing the much needed juice to power up the onboard electronics ie aircon, radio, headlight, wiper etc. The Hilander's stock alternator indicated an 40A rating dunno why it doesn't produce that much power but may be because of old age. He rewinded it using "larger" wires so as to raise the amp to 60-65 levels. I asked him to show me thru the multimeter the actual amp of the newly rewinded alternator but couldn't do so as he probably doesnt know how to and I don't know too.

After the rewinding works we tested the vehicle and its NOW juicing the way it should..during idle with the headlight, aircon, radio and wiper turned ON it registered 11.8.-12.6+ volts and further goes up during revs. While further rising up 13-14V with the electricals off and revs rising to 2.5k rpm.

brader, 40 ampere talaga ang stock alternator fitted to ja1. highest draw would be the air conditioning (approx 10 amps siguro, headlights about 6 amps, lower amps for some accesories, etc.)

malamang walang induction type meter (yung clamp ammeter) yung technician kaya hindi nya maipakita sa iyo. besides mahal yung may DC ampere function na mataas ang current rating (say 100 Amps DC). karamihan kasi ng murang clamp meter is rated to 10 or 20 amps in DC mode. sa AC wala problema. kaso DC current ang auto electrical.

**miked** · April 21st, 2015 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by aioshin

Hi Isuzu Hilander Owners, Tsikoters,

I got this random experience on my Xtrm hilander, when I attempt to do change gear, before I can transfer to another gear, the engine shut off. One time, I am running fifth gear, and try to change to 4th, before I can engage to 4th, engine shuts down, another one is from 3rd gear, tried reducing to 2nd, before I able to go to 2nd, engine shuts off, same thing, though upon starting it back, it starts, but I need to step the accelerator to pump some fuel... Could it be a dirty fuel filter? no chance to do the checking yet, but just in case someone here got the same experience, kindly advise.

thanks.

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Hi Isuzu Hilander Owners, Tsikoters,

I got this random experience on my Xtrm hilander, when I attempt to do change gear, before I can transfer to another gear, the engine shut off. One time, I am running fifth gear, and try to change to 4th, before I can engage to 4th, engine shuts down, another one is from 3rd gear, tried reducing to 2nd, before I able to go to 2nd, engine shuts off, same thing, though upon starting it back, it starts, but I need to step the accelerator to pump some fuel... Could it be a dirty fuel filter? no chance to do the checking yet, but just in case someone here got the same experience, kindly advise.

thanks.

too many points of entry for air to enter kasi sa fuel injection system.

1. malulutong na hoses (supply and return)
2. loose clamps (supply and return)
3. sa intake hose sa fuel tank
4. pin hole leak sa steel lines
5. sa mga union nuts, etc.
6. sa drain plug or sa primer ng water sedimentor
7. or may intermittent connection problem sa shut off valve ng injection pump. sa kakavibrate e nag-loloose ang connection or dahil sa corrosion.
8. leaky injection pump

or maaring sa sobrang dumi ng fuel filter e nahihirapan pumasok ang fuel papuntang injection pump lalu na kung high rpms.

hindi naman kaya overheating condition iyan?

**aioshin** · April 22nd, 2015 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by miked

too many points of entry for air to enter kasi sa fuel injection system.

1. malulutong na hoses (supply and return)
2. loose clamps (supply and return)
3. sa intake hose sa fuel tank
4. pin hole leak sa steel lines
5. sa mga union nuts, etc.
6. sa drain plug or sa primer ng water sedimentor
7. or may intermittent connection problem sa shut off valve ng injection pump. sa kakavibrate e nag-loloose ang connection or dahil sa corrosion.
8. leaky injection pump

or maaring sa sobrang dumi ng fuel filter e nahihirapan pumasok ang fuel papuntang injection pump lalu na kung high rpms.

hindi naman kaya overheating condition iyan?

overheating, hinde naman kasi ang baba nung temp gauge (presuming ok yung gauge ko) wala na din thermostat yung radiator.. possible cguro fuel filter.. still not able to clean again the water separator and replace the fuel filter. i'll confirm once na palitan ko na mga pwedeng palitan.. though so far, i did not experience it to date. thanks for the inputs.

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Originally Posted by miked

too many points of entry for air to enter kasi sa fuel injection system.

1. malulutong na hoses (supply and return)
2. loose clamps (supply and return)
3. sa intake hose sa fuel tank
4. pin hole leak sa steel lines
5. sa mga union nuts, etc.
6. sa drain plug or sa primer ng water sedimentor
7. or may intermittent connection problem sa shut off valve ng injection pump. sa kakavibrate e nag-loloose ang connection or dahil sa corrosion.
8. leaky injection pump

or maaring sa sobrang dumi ng fuel filter e nahihirapan pumasok ang fuel papuntang injection pump lalu na kung high rpms.

hindi naman kaya overheating condition iyan?

overheating, hinde naman kasi ang baba nung temp gauge (presuming ok yung gauge ko) wala na din thermostat yung radiator.. possible cguro fuel filter.. still not able to clean again the water separator and replace the fuel filter. i'll confirm once na palitan ko na mga pwedeng palitan.. though so far, i did not experience it to date. thanks for the inputs.

**maverick74** · April 22nd, 2015 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by aioshin

Hi Isuzu Hilander Owners, Tsikoters,

I got this random experience on my Xtrm hilander, when I attempt to do change gear, before I can transfer to another gear, the engine shut off. One time, I am running fifth gear, and try to change to 4th, before I can engage to 4th, engine shuts down, another one is from 3rd gear, tried reducing to 2nd, before I able to go to 2nd, engine shuts off, same thing, though upon starting it back, it starts, but I need to step the accelerator to pump some fuel... Could it be a dirty fuel filter? no chance to do the checking yet, but just in case someone here got the same experience, kindly advise.

thanks.

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Hi Isuzu Hilander Owners, Tsikoters,

I got this random experience on my Xtrm hilander, when I attempt to do change gear, before I can transfer to another gear, the engine shut off. One time, I am running fifth gear, and try to change to 4th, before I can engage to 4th, engine shuts down, another one is from 3rd gear, tried reducing to 2nd, before I able to go to 2nd, engine shuts off, same thing, though upon starting it back, it starts, but I need to step the accelerator to pump some fuel... Could it be a dirty fuel filter? no chance to do the checking yet, but just in case someone here got the same experience, kindly advise.

thanks.

* aioshin na experience ko na and ganyang situation na palaging namatay engine ko. I tried changing my fuel filter pero ganun pa rin then the mechanic suggest to clean the fuel tank then Whooolla! Andun pala ang culprit napakadumi na pala ng tangke ok. Parang kumpol2x na gel na maitim na kailangan pa na powdered detergent at 2 bottles of liquid Sosa na panglinis. After nun Balik normal na except yung fuelhose na rubber na nag connect sa fuel tank need na daw Palitan. May mabilihan ba yan dito sa Davao? my ride pala is 2004 crosswind limited edition.

**aioshin** · April 23rd, 2015 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by maverick74

* aioshin na experience ko na and ganyang situation na palaging namatay engine ko. I tried changing my fuel filter pero ganun pa rin then the mechanic suggest to clean the fuel tank then Whooolla! Andun pala ang culprit napakadumi na pala ng tangke ok. Parang kumpol2x na gel na maitim na kailangan pa na powdered detergent at 2 bottles of liquid Sosa na panglinis. After nun Balik normal na except yung fuelhose na rubber na nag connect sa fuel tank need na daw Palitan. May mabilihan ba yan dito sa Davao? my ride pala is 2004 crosswind limited edition.

Ayos, will add it to my Bucket List...

Change fuel filter - DIY
Clean water separator - DIY
Clean fuel tank - Shop, i'm not confident to do it.
Have the fuel injector check by qualified tech.

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Originally Posted by maverick74

* aioshin na experience ko na and ganyang situation na palaging namatay engine ko. I tried changing my fuel filter pero ganun pa rin then the mechanic suggest to clean the fuel tank then Whooolla! Andun pala ang culprit napakadumi na pala ng tangke ok. Parang kumpol2x na gel na maitim na kailangan pa na powdered detergent at 2 bottles of liquid Sosa na panglinis. After nun Balik normal na except yung fuelhose na rubber na nag connect sa fuel tank need na daw Palitan. May mabilihan ba yan dito sa Davao? my ride pala is 2004 crosswind limited edition.

Ayos, will add it to my Bucket List...

Change fuel filter - DIY
Clean water separator - DIY
Clean fuel tank - Shop, i'm not confident to do it.
Have the fuel injector check by qualified tech.

**maverick74** · April 24th, 2015 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by aioshin

Ayos, will add it to my Bucket List...

Change fuel filter - DIY
Clean water separator - DIY
Clean fuel tank - Shop, i'm not confident to do it.
Have the fuel injector check by qualified tech.

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Ayos, will add it to my Bucket List...

Change fuel filter - DIY
Clean water separator - DIY
Clean fuel tank - Shop, i'm not confident to do it.
Have the fuel injector check by qualified tech.

Nice... Menos gastos pag minsan mag DIY tayo. Sa Petron carcare ko pinagawa malapit sa camp catitipan ang fuel tank cleaning mag 1200 ang charge Nila whole day na yun.