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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbo View Post
    Ito na nga hindi ko maintidihan sa Isuzu eh?

    Kung kaya ng mga Chinese copycats maglagay ng ABS, airbag, etc. at a 4x4 option on these type of vehicle without raising the price significantly, why can't Isuzu? They can always use the the old reliable engines, drivetrain, and suspension parts from previous generation vehicles.

    Just imagine this could have been the new generation Sportivo.
    yep... Great Wall feasted on the Axiom indeed... at least may effort inject a bit of their own design...


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    #32
    Indeed, Isuzu could have just copy one of its own and sell it here as a new generation vehicle.

    Naunahan pa.

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    #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbo View Post
    Ito na nga hindi ko maintidihan sa Isuzu eh?

    Kung kaya ng mga Chinese copycats maglagay ng ABS, airbag, etc. at a 4x4 option on these type of vehicle without raising the price significantly, why can't Isuzu? They can always use the the old reliable engines, drivetrain, and suspension parts from previous generation vehicles.

    Just imagine this could have been the new generation Sportivo.
    Well... look at it this way.

    A Chery QQ costs 400k pesos. Airbags, semi-automatic transmission... all in.

    A Hyundai i10 (same size and spec) costs 500k.

    Now... look at the difference in quality in the interiors. Which one creaks and rattles, even when brand new? Which one bottoms out over bumps? Which one has poorer panel fit and finish?

    It's definitely not the i10...

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    If you want to sell cheap, you cut corners. Even with Ssangyong, which uses decent MB-based engines and underchassis components, you can see visible cost-cutting in the interior materials of their cheaper cars, the Actyon and Stavic... the Kyron and Rexton, at least, are a bit more upmarket.

    With the Chinese, cost-savings are done everywhere. In the trim... in the way the panels are assembled... in the paint... in the choice of plastics used... in the quality of the shock absorbers (which usually go bad early) and the type of steel used in the coil springs and leaf springs.

    These things are relatively minor... but the big ticket problems are in the chassis design... which directly affects safety (although the Crosswind has virtually no crashworthiness, either) and the engine assembly... which is the most important maintenance item on the vehicle, as engine replacements can cost up to 200-300k pesos if they fail.

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    With the Crosswind, it's disappointing that Isuzu has not seen fit to put any money into developing the chassis or improving the build quality of the vehicle. The doors still come out of alignment after a while, due to the soft metal used... the crash-structure is pathetic, and the interior is given to rattles and squeaks, even after just a few thousand kilometers. And the active safety is atrocious... poor handling and woeful brakes mean that you're never going to miss the ability to go 160 km/h, because you'll have a hard time braking from just 100.

    But at least the engine is durable, reliable and economical. Thus, I still recommend the base level Crosswind for anyone who needs a work service. The top-of-the-line Sportivo? Too much money for nothing but a tarted-up Crosswind with a video system. You could simply buy a lower level XTi, install leather and Dynamat insulation, and buy an even better video and sound system for less money.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #34
    ang mahal pa rin nito samantalang chinese brand lang ito at siguro hindi ganun ka tibay yan!!hindi pala siguro sigurado pala!!!!!
    kaya lang mahal isuzu ksi matibay talaga at proven reliability na.eh ang mga chinese cars sa porma lang maganda

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    #35
    The Hover will be launched in Australia as X240 with a Mitsubishi 4G62. 2.4L engine.

    Here, I believe it will be "assembled" by resurgent Francisco Motors with a 2.8 L diesel engine.

    Yeah..there will be many doubters. But it seems Great Wall is one of the best Chinese car companies.

    http://great-wall-review.blogspot.co...all-hover.html

    As to the Crosswind, it will probably last 4 lifetimes...the engine that is...everything else is doubtful.

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    #36
    double post! arrghhh.
    Last edited by Gerbo; September 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 PM.

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    #37
    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Basahin niyo yung thread na Hi Mileage crosswind owners..Ang mga crosswind owners hindi mahilig sa mga gadgets, speed, dami ng airbags,aerodynamics, sapce age looks at kung ano anong kalandian. Ang priority nila isang sasakyan na kahit barbaric, eh sa 100thou plus km na tinatakbo eh reliable as the day they got it sa dealer. Kaya kahit may innova na at kung ano ano pang ka kompitensiya may bumibili parin.
    super agree!!!

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