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January 9th, 2013 11:15 AM #21
1994 na-introduce yung CF. obsolete na nga.
http://www.api.org/certifications/en...010_120210.pdf
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January 9th, 2013 12:30 PM #23Point taken, but also take note that the oil also passes the ACEA B4 standard which is the european counterpart. Im looking at the manual of my SF3, and I cant find any API requirement for the oil, except that it should be ACEA B4 rated. Maybe because yung manual ko is European based?
Anyway, di naman siguro ganun ka-reckless ang HQA to put out of spec oil sa SF3 ko, otherwise magrereklamo ako.
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January 9th, 2013 02:01 PM #24*TS/micodee: you can visit HARI (walkin will do) at their office at the 10th to 12th Floor, KPMG Center, 6787 Ayala Avenue, Makati (tel 813-6788 to 89)
FC of my 2.0L Theta II Tucs is 7.3km/li at 60-40% city-highway driving. i have same sound and grunt observation as yours
my first change oil, HQA used 15w-50 semi syn. second, HGC used 5w-40 full syn
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January 9th, 2013 02:19 PM #25
Well, I certainly hope they're not reckless with our cars. But then I think that can still be debated on. In another thread. Hehehe!
That puzzles me though. Parang by Euro standards it's still within spec, but by American standards it's way off? I can understand if it's SM or SN but just CF, coz that would mean it was mainly meant for gasoline engines and just mixed fleet for diesels. But the comparo is diesel to diesel already. Or am I reading it wrong? Can someone enlighten us?
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January 9th, 2013 02:45 PM #26to owners of Tucs CRDI, forced to use HGMO (im assuming na CF rated), how is your FC and engine so far?
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January 9th, 2013 03:15 PM #27Last edited by bjreyesmd; January 9th, 2013 at 03:22 PM. Reason: additional info
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January 9th, 2013 03:20 PM #28I recall my SA at Hyundai E Rod saying that the FS oil was manufactured in Germany. I wonder if iba-iba ang suppliers kada casa.
In any case, I just got my oil changed sa HQA last weekend, they accepted owner provided oil so I bought Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy. So far my observations are that my cold start engine noise has gone done significantly. In fact yung valve tappeting sounds from cold start would only be audible nalang for about 20-30 seconds compared to about 3-4 mins with the HGMO. Power and response has improved noticeably.
On fuel economy, I have palang the numbers from the instrument panel - I drove my benchmark city route this morning and the reading on my dash panel was 12.9L/100km for my 15km city drive; normally my reading would be around 15.7L/100km for the same route, same traffic conditions. 6.3km/L vs 7.7km/L is about 20% improvement. This far exceeds my expectations; I was only expecting around a 5% improvement. I just got my first full-tank since the oil change this morning. I'll report back my actual fuel economy on my next re-fill.
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January 9th, 2013 04:11 PM #29
If I recall, that's just minimum standards, but the oil can exceed it. If the oil meets the required standards in Europe, should be no big deal.
Maybe it doesn't meet US standards because it's full of GTOil.
Anybody have any idea on the zinc content? The EPA absolutely hates zinc, though it is better for the engine.
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If I recall, that's just minimum standards, but the oil can exceed it. If the oil meets the required standards in Europe, should be no big deal.
Maybe it doesn't meet US standards because it's full of GTOil.
Anybody have any idea on the zinc content? The EPA absolutely hates zinc, though it is better for the engine.
Ang pagbalik ng comeback...
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January 9th, 2013 04:13 PM #30
Hmmm i think the FC would be dependent on the oil's viscosity. 0W-30 vs 5w-40 is probably the reason for your better FC.
I think the API/ACEA rating would be more of how the oil would protect your engine, if it can handle the pressure and stress, and stand up to the wear and tear being given by the engine.
Either way, that Mobil FS should be better than the HGMO.
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