Wondering Why there is no Honda CRV Diesel Variant here in the Philippines..

**yellahfellah** · February 13th, 2016 02:58 PM

I know that this thread is more than 10 years old, but meron bang bagong update sa issue na ito?

Considering that we already have EURO IV Diesel Fuel here (UniOil, Seaoil, Petron, Shell, Caltex), is there any news if car manufacturers will be bringing in their diesel variants here (CRV, RAV4, Mazda2, etc.)?

**niky** · February 15th, 2016 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by yellahfellah

I know that this thread is more than 10 years old, but meron bang bagong update sa issue na ito?

Considering that we already have EURO IV Diesel Fuel here (UniOil, Seaoil, Petron, Shell, Caltex), is there any news if car manufacturers will be bringing in their diesel variants here (CRV, RAV4, Mazda2, etc.)?

Most of the Japanese don't make their own transverse diesel engines. They're typically farmed out to specialists in Europe. Even those that do them in-house do them at European factories.

To import the diesel models from Europe... or even just the engines for installation in cars in Thailand... would cost a lot of money... and the resulting products would never be competitive against the Thai-made SUVs... which already cost the same as the gasoline CRV/RAV4/etcetera... sometimes less.

**kevinworld** · March 6th, 2016 12:12 AM

There are diesel crvs, city's and corollas in India. And they are cheap. Stop their excuses, bring in the diesel engines.

**Walter** · March 6th, 2016 12:26 PM

By all means bring the diesel sedans and crossovers that are available elsewhere. Then people will complain about the high price. Look at the Toyota Innova, everyone wanted this and that, larger engine, 6 airbags, etc. Then Toyota brings those features and now people are screaming about the high price increase.

**viper888** · March 6th, 2016 02:08 PM

Have you guys seen the prices of the peugeots? Thats what you should expect from a diesel honda/mazda etc

Ford already gave up with the diesel focus.

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**niky** · March 6th, 2016 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by kevinworld

There are diesel crvs, city's and corollas in India. And they are cheap. Stop their excuses, bring in the diesel engines.

As viper has said: Look at the price of diesel Peugeots. And the diesel VW Polo (which is made in India) and look at how expensive the Spin diesel and Tata 1.3 diesels are (they use the same Fiat 1.3 diesel, sourced from India.)

Diesels from Europe AND India are expensive.

The only way to get cheap diesel is from Free Trade Agreement partners. Meaning the ASEAN and Korea. And they don't make diesel CRVs in either place.

**StockEngine** · March 6th, 2016 05:16 PM

He trolls the forums. Why even respond...

**dct** · March 6th, 2016 05:53 PM

Bakit kaya yung innova, fortuner or montero (v6 pa nga ang gasoline) konti lang difference sa gas and diesel na siguradong mababawi mo yung cost for few years. Pero yung iba gaya ng mga example nyo ang layo ng difference

**akosidab** · March 6th, 2016 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by dct

Bakit kaya yung innova, fortuner or montero (v6 pa nga ang gasoline) konti lang difference sa gas and diesel na siguradong mababawi mo yung cost for few years. Pero yung iba gaya ng mga example nyo ang layo ng difference

Siguro dahil sa dito gawa yung innova kaya mas mura? But not sure kung ung engine eh dto din ginagwa

**niky** · March 6th, 2016 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by dct

Bakit kaya yung innova, fortuner or montero (v6 pa nga ang gasoline) konti lang difference sa gas and diesel na siguradong mababawi mo yung cost for few years. Pero yung iba gaya ng mga example nyo ang layo ng difference

Uh... the difference is not "konti".

The Fort 2.7 is 100k cheaper than the 2.5 diesel... and the 2.7 makes a hell of a lot more power than the 2.5.

If the 3.0 was available in 4x2, the price difference would likely be around 250k to the 2.7.

The 4.0 V6 Prado is nearly a MILLION pesos cheaper than the 3.0 diesel.

Pajero V6... with nearly a hundred horses more than the 3.2 DiD... 200k less.

The Montero V6, if I recall right, also cost less. Looking it up... it was, in fact, the cheapest Montero Sport variant at the time... the only cheaper variants at the time were the remaindered stock of non-VGT Montero Sports.

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CRDIs cost big bucks. The only reason they sell SUVs almost exclusively in CRDI is because buyers won't buy big gasoline engines here because gas is expensive. And the additional 100-200k is easy to justify if you are selling a truck for 1.5 - 2m.

If you are selling a small car for just 500-600k, an extra 100-200k is already a 20%+++ price increase. Hard to justify. Especially when small cars already get excellent economy.

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Don't expect a front-wheel drive CR-V diesel to cost less than 1.5 - 1.6m. (more likely 1.6m... Tucson is 1.53m)... which would make it a hard sell against the likes of the Fortuner or Everest. Especially considering the CR-V is just a five seater. An AWD variant would likely cost 1.8m.