HONDA SiR & MITSU galant VR4 & VR6,which is much better in performance?

[alwayz_yummy]

kung 2.0 ok pa, and you'll be consuming lesser fuel than an 1.6, kasi di mo masyado tinotodo ung gas, sisibat na (experience ko sa maxima ko), i barely step on the gas just to maintain a 80-100kph run on NLEX.

2 cars have their own purpose...pero, honda doesent have an entry in WRC/dakar, so as mitsu: no F1 and the like...

kaya hirap icompare....pero di ako matitinag dito parin ako:

[ssaloon]

but the beauty with DSM ECUs (and other ECUs for that matter) is the programming capabalities they have. magburn ka lang ng new program, tanggal na agad yung speed and engine limiters!

alwayz_yummy,
2 na sa tropa namin yung nagswap ng 6A13TT sa 8G nila. isa matic FWD, yung isa manual and AWD :evillaugh

[alwayz_yummy]

but the beauty with DSM ECUs (and other ECUs for that matter) is the programming capabalities they have. magburn ka lang ng new program, tanggal na agad yung speed and engine limiters!

alwayz_yummy,
2 na sa tropa namin yung nagswap ng 6A13TT sa 8G nila. isa matic FWD, yung isa manual and AWD :evillaugh

yan maganda ng ECU..programable,e, at easy to check kung may sira... kaya hoping na may scanner akong mapuntahan

6a13TT maticpero FWD, sisbak na ng SIR yan panigurado!

hehe may manual palang 6a13TT-AWD! kahit siguro b16b/b18c yan iwan yan

anu yung manual tranny na awd, hinanapan lang ng match or manual tranny talaga kasama?

[ssaloon]

manual tranny talaga yung kasama pare.

[alwayz_yummy]

so ung 8g nya kinorvert sa manual....saya! buti nakakuha siya ng lever at clutch pedal assy....teka 5 or 6 speed?

[inchcockie]

if we're talking LOCAL cars only:

Galant (4 or 6 cylinder):

pros - roomy, nice suspension, nice interior, midsize sedan, relatively cheaper to buy 2nd hand, bigger displacement engine, comfortable ride, A/T available

cons - gas guzzler (for a local car), expensive parts, scarce aftermarket parts, poor resale value

SiR:

pros - great engine, abundant and cheap parts, great aftermarket support, very good resale value, good driving feel, good gas mileage

cons - weak stock brakes, uncomfortable ride (too rigid and sporty), expensive for a 2nd hand car, no A/T available

*IMO if you're into racing you probably wouldn't want these 2 cars anyway so i'm guessing it's to be your daily driver. take your pick. my 2 cents:

1.if you're single and don't plan on having too many passengers along for your trips, definitely get an SiR. added bonus would be cheaper parts and better fuel mileage.

2. if you're a family man and/or you often take people along with you on trips, definitely get the larger, roomier and more comfortable galant. the added fuel expense and maintenance costs would be worth it.

[ssaloon]

so ung 8g nya kinorvert sa manual....saya! buti nakakuha siya ng lever at clutch pedal assy....teka 5 or 6 speed?

5 speed manual tranny, galing din sa front cut. para sa parts, nagparating pa siya galing japan through el dorado.

eto yung manual:


eto yung matic invecs2:

[alwayz_yummy]

if we're talking LOCAL cars only:

Galant (4 or 6 cylinder):

cons - gas guzzler (for a local car), expensive parts, scarce aftermarket parts, poor resale value

yah gas guzler talaga siya when comparing it sa 1.3L or 1.6L compacts....try comparin it to ES civic 2.0, a lynx rs, a MZ3-2.0R or a 4g63/b18c swapped lancer/civic...di sila nagkakalayo-->root of error of consumption comparison!

expensive parts yah, kahit naman corona or accord or cefiro man yan! as the rule supply and demand, anu ba marami lumalabas sa casa: compacts! anu ang cheaper to buy 1st hand: compact --> again another root cause of error in comparison!

poor reasle value, bakit ang corona ba, cefiro, accord kasing mahal din ba ng compacts na kasing year nila??? remember big engine, big appetite, sa mahal ng gas ngayon, siyempre, bagsak presyo mga yan pag gamit na obvious reason: makonsumo sa gas!

and you forgot, much stable ang mid sedans kaysa sa kahit anong compact especially at high speeds.....stock ha!

if we're talking LOCAL cars only:

SiR:

pros - great engine, abundant and cheap parts, great aftermarket support, very good resale value, good driving feel, good gas mileage

cons - weak stock brakes, uncomfortable ride (too rigid and sporty), expensive for a 2nd hand car, no A/T available

SIR: good gas milage? almost kakonsumo nyan is 1800cc or 2.0! kasi your flooring it to have power, otherwise, masmatakaw siya sa typical 1.6L

cheap abundant parts: well, isipin mo why:alin ba madami compact or mid size???

great aftermarket support: hehe, even fiberglass make fake chins..daming ricers!

very good resale value...well, pinoy mentalidad na yan....honda mahal, prestigous daw... ok, SIR limited production, pero to the enthusiast, bibili nya kahit mahal, practical persons, 90% hindi....

good engine, but definately not a great engine!good driving feel--> well subjective, 1 thing for sure feeling gwapo ka pag SIR dala mo..aminin

cons:tama ka, matagtag talaga yan, kasi firmer ang shocks! mahina talaga preno nyan...

may kaklase ako, naka rayban galant siya, nasisisi daw siya at pinalitan pa nya ng SIR! nakiuso kasi,e...


QUOTE=inchcockie;666982]if we're talking LOCAL cars only:

*IMO if you're into racing you probably wouldn't want these 2 cars anyway so i'm guessing it's to be your daily driver. take your pick. my 2 cents:

[/QUOTE]

racing, kung drag na karaniwang ginagawa malapit dito sa amin: sa mindanao ave.. SIR ka...daily ride kahit alin na suit sa panlasa mo...


QUOTE=inchcockie;666982]if we're talking LOCAL cars only:

1.if you're single and don't plan on having too many passengers along for your trips, definitely get an SiR. added bonus would be cheaper parts and better fuel mileage.

2. if you're a family man and/or you often take people along with you on trips, definitely get the larger, roomier and more comfortable galant. the added fuel expense and maintenance costs would be worth it.

[/QUOTE]

as stated above, explaind ko na why cheaper at madaming parts ang SIR over the galant!

i am a family man, pero ayaw na ayaw ko na magmumukhang driver ako, it doesent mean na ayaw ko sa SIR, over hyped lang ang SIR kasi siya lang nag boast ng 160ps, na di naabot ng mga 2.0L japs in its time..pero only on paper! and HP sells more than torque..for everyday use torque is of more value than HP!kaya sikat SIR, pero ang di alam ng karamihan, ung sasakyan on the road..pag sa paper ka lang nag compare, parang naglaro ka ng "trump-cards" lang...

hay..matanda na nga siguro ako at mid-size ako mas favor....

sorry,ha, linaw ko lang din lang.. peace bro!

[alwayz_yummy]

5 speed manual tranny, galing din sa front cut. para sa parts, nagparating pa siya galing japan through el dorado.

eto yung manual:


eto yung matic invecs2:

swerte nya a, nakakuha ng front cut! ung puti parang pala ung gusto kong wagon!

[niky]

RE: SiR consumption... not quite 2.0... but not quite 1.6... same as a 1.8, I guess, if driven conservatively.

But modified? If you've got wild cams, type-R parts, computer tuning and a full exhaust, you can drink gas like an SUV at full throttle.