Honda Civic Hatch Type R Euro

**Tacoma_34** · February 1st, 2007 02:59 AM

what a piece of junk for 2.2M.

**BRROOOMMMM** · February 1st, 2007 10:00 AM

thanks for the info mga master tsikoters, wow super expensive and is not worth for 2.2m

honda civic hatch type R euro medyo nagagandahan lang kasi ako sa outlook nya lalo na sa front view

**ssaloon** · February 1st, 2007 05:17 PM

for 2.2M, i'd get a legacy GT nalang

**rbravo** · February 9th, 2007 02:20 AM

madalas akong makakita nito dito sa greece.Di naman masyado maganda.(not to offend sa mga may gusto nito).for a 2.2m pesos. bili nalng ako ng EVO 8.

**Bry** · February 9th, 2007 03:19 AM

Cool hatch.

Pero like what's said above, I'd get a different vehicle for 2.2M.

**redorange** · February 9th, 2007 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by niky

I prefer the Civic Si... it has some advantages, including:
3. Same power... Si's are dynoing at 208-218 hp at the hubs on the dynopack...

That must be a modded SI to pull 208-218hp on a dyno, the average I have seen is about 160-165 stock since it's only rated at 197-200hp(depending on source) at the flywheel.

Heres a link to a dyno sheet for an SI with about 1200 miles on it.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1876564

Here's another with video.

http://www.automobilemag.com/multime...civic_si_dyno/

**niky** · February 9th, 2007 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by redorange

That must be a modded SI to pull 208-218hp on a dyno, the average I have seen is about 160-165 stock since it's only rated at 197-200hp(depending on source) at the flywheel.

Heres a link to a dyno sheet for an SI with about 1200 miles on it.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1876564

Here's another with video.

http://www.automobilemag.com/multime...civic_si_dyno/

That's at the hubs. It's an inertial dynapack which removes frictional losses from the roller-wheel interface by bolting straight to the hubs. Truthfuly, it tends to read high, but the readings do indicate good power. I've got an estimated 150+ hp with my mods, and my car reads 131-135 on the dynapack. The new 1.8 Civic reads 135, despite being rated at 140. Ouch.

I like the dynapack because it eliminates roller friction and slippage, camber oddities (camber can sometimes add 5 hp) and the effects of tire compounds and tire pressure. A roller dyno will tell you much more about what gets to the ground, but a dynapack is very useful for tuning because of these traits.

Still, 165 hp on a roller dyno is pretty good for any engine rated at 197. Regular WRXs usually get that much (rated at 235, but with bigger losses from increased AWD drag).

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Oops. Looked at the link. Dynapack... That is bad for a new Honda... "tight" engine, perhaps? That calculates out (considering 5.5hp wheel loss inherent to rollers) to just 160 at the rollers, but about 190 at the flywheel only. Strange... dynapack numbers are usually consistent, no matter where in the country you are... We've gotten similar numbers for the 1.8 here to the ones on TOV Asia and TOV US (which posted the 204 hp dyno).