2014 Honda City (Gen 4)

**KcireReaver** · August 8th, 2018 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by ieddam

I have a brv pero same din lang naman ata sila. Owner's manual says it's ok, pero best to consult your manual, nakalagay dun lahat. Ganto ginagawa ko kapag mahabang pataas o pababa. Huwag mo nga lang gawin habang nakaapak ka sa gas.

I think hindi ata ako umaapak sa gas kapag D to S pero kapag S to D hindi ko nirerelease ung gas pedal

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**StockEngine** · August 8th, 2018 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by KcireReaver

is it safe to shift from D to S to engine brake on corners? I usually downshift on corners when using mt to assist my brakes.

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just use your brakes. cvt repair is not possible. brake pads are cheap

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**KcireReaver** · August 8th, 2018 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by StockEngine

just use your brakes. cvt repair is not possible. brake pads are cheap

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does it really hurts the transmission when you engine brake?

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**n_spinner06** · August 8th, 2018 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by KcireReaver

does it really hurts the transmission when you engine brake?

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Quick question...how significant is engine braking in terms of its overall contribution in slowing down a car or bringing it to a full stop vis a vis the brakes? I'm thinking that if the contribution is insignificant..say for example 10% engine brake-90% wheel brakes, is it even worth it to risk additional wear or possibly breaking your transmission(if it even has an effect at all) vs just using the brakes to stop the car?

**By engine brake i mean intentionally selecting a lower gear to slow down the car (not lifting your foot off the gas pedal and slowing down in gear).

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**benchph1** · August 8th, 2018 09:23 AM

It’s significant when you are going downhill and you constantly use your brakes. Naka experience ka na ba nung “lumusot” ang preno? Id rather loose my transmission than plunge into a ravine.

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**box_type** · August 8th, 2018 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by benchph1

It’s significant when you are going downhill and you constantly use your brakes. Naka experience ka na ba nung “lumusot” ang preno? Id rather loose my transmission than plunge into a ravine.

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this is an entirely different scenario, pag lumusot preno even if you do an engine brake you will still (most likely) plunge into a ravine engine brake won't stop your car either, i agree with n_spinner brake pads/shoes are way cheaper than tranny repairs, imho

**KcireReaver** · August 8th, 2018 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by n_spinner06

Quick question...how significant is engine braking in terms of its overall contribution in slowing down a car or bringing it to a full stop vis a vis the brakes? I'm thinking that if the contribution is insignificant..say for example 10% engine brake-90% wheel brakes, is it even worth it to risk additional wear or possibly breaking your transmission(if it even has an effect at all) vs just using the brakes to stop the car?

**By engine brake i mean intentionally selecting a lower gear to slow down the car (not lifting your foot off the gas pedal and slowing down in gear).

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as i've read on some articles and also my own experience when you engine brake (shifting to lower gear to decelerate), you have more control on the speed specially when you do not trust your brakes. ramdam ko talaga kapag mahaba ung downhill parang lumalalim ung feel sa brake pedal parang ramdam ko nawawala ung kapit nya. kaya kelangan talaga ung engine braking.
some says engine braking affects the transmission but other says it doesnt.

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**dr. d** · August 8th, 2018 10:17 AM

the best way is to simply drive slower.
it doesn't cost anything.

**KcireReaver** · August 8th, 2018 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by box_type

this is an entirely different scenario, pag lumusot preno even if you do an engine brake you will still (most likely) plunge into a ravine engine brake won't stop your car either, i agree with n_spinner brake pads/shoes are way cheaper than tranny repairs, imho

imo he is trying to say that assist the brake thru engine braking to avoid or before resulting to loose brake

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**jut703** · August 8th, 2018 11:31 AM

Engine braking in itself will not damage your transmission. It's perfectly fine for a car to stay at a high rpm (which is when engine braking works).

The problem is when coming from low rpm then suddenly going to high rpm without proper rev matching. When driving a manual, most people don't rev match - they just slot it to a lower gear and release the clutch and wait for the revs to rise. That puts a lot of stress on the clutch and transmission - you can avoid it by revving the engine to the expected rpm of the lower gear before releasing the clutch.

For automatics, most non-sports cars don't have auto-blipping, but the ECU is smart enough to be conservative about the downshifting (or ratio adjustment for CVT) to not burn out the clutch/pulleys.

Bottomline - engine braking is crucial for continuous downhill driving, and it isn't harmful to your transmission when done right.

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