Why Single-ticketing System Opposed by other MM Mayors?

**shadow** · March 25th, 2008 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by creepy

Before we talk about EOs and legalities, first ask: what's wrong with having a unified ticketing system for the entire Metro Manila? Obvious naman na tumututol lang sina Binay, Peewee para manggulo lamang (o dahil mababawasan ang "kita").

They're only resorting to legalities (e.g. EO vs. Local Govt Code, nature of MMDA) as a cop-out to what's the real issue: an organized system for Metro Manila.

there is nothing wrong, but based nga sa charter mismo ng MMDA they can't just implement things kung hinde approve ng "board" which is compose of the MM Mayors...there are rules to follow..kung hinde susundin then alisin na lang just let us all do whatever we want...

given that the problem is about revenues...wala tayong magagawa...it's in the local gov't code na Mayors and dapat mag manage ng traffic eh...unles palitan nila yan, then Mayors have the final say sa cities nila...

you just omitted the names of the administration Mayors..which also don't approve of this scheme....so ginugulo rin lang ni Abalos , Belmonte etc and admin?

if they really wanted to give MMDA the authority then first change the charter of the MMDA...

Hihirit ba si Binay ng ganyan kung si Erap ang presidente????!!! He's always making snide comments against the MMDA (and Bayani) and throwing up obstacles to the proper functioning of the agency.

again hinde lang si Binay and other opposition Mayors ang against dito sa scheme ng MMDA.... walang kinalaman si GMA or ERAP dito..it is the Mayors (admin & opposition) vs MMDA...

**istan** · March 25th, 2008 01:10 PM

Dali lng ayusin yan.
Go thru the Single-ticketing System, violators pay thru banks. What ever city you got caught in...its written in the ticket.
MMDA just remits the amount to the corresponding city gov't.

Kung wala lng corruption jan, GAME yan. Pero meron e...so daming iisipin kung baket di ma reremit ang tutoong amount.

**ringostarr** · March 25th, 2008 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by shadow

walang gagamit ng judicial branch kundi MMDA...not the Mayors...gusto na pumunta sa korte ni Bayani...hehehehe

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ganun ba eh bakit local govt. code ang ilalaban sa direct order ng national govt. or main executive branch. the one that they are part of

may sariling pseudo judicial branch ang exec dept. - dept. of justice. dun dapat mag-air ng greivance si Makati republic. and if to check the officials of the govt. may ombudsman naman

the problem with this Mayor of Makati. feeling niya citizen sya pareho natin.

the 3 branches of the govt. are solely created to service the filipino people, the citizens of the republic. hindi mga pulitiko.

kaya siguro napa-hello na lang yun dati may kasabay si binay na dapat tatanggalin sa puwesto na governor dun sa iloilo. si binay may pa TRO TRO pa. pero yun gobernador ni-relinquish post niya kasi nga naman dapat hindi na nila ginagamit yun pang mamamayan na proseso

it's like in the military. may court martial kung may problema sa ranks nila. ganun din dapat sa pulitiko o mga official.

although kung wala nga naman delicadeza ang isang pulitiko, gagamitin nya lahat para ma-save sarili niya, even to the extent of using his Makati regional trial court

**ringostarr** · March 25th, 2008 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by shadow

there is nothing wrong, but based nga sa charter mismo ng MMDA they can't just implement things kung hinde approve ng "board" which is compose of the MM Mayors...there are rules to follow..kung hinde susundin then alisin na lang just let us all do whatever we want...

given that the problem is about revenues...wala tayong magagawa...it's in the local gov't code na Mayors and dapat mag manage ng traffic eh...unles palitan nila yan, then Mayors have the final say sa cities nila...

the MM people has the final say kung ano dapat sa city na'to. and it shows naman na unfied ang gusto ng private motorists as well as transport groups. they want a SINGLE ticketing system para mas dumali buhay

the MMDA was created kasi special treatment ang Metro Manila. not bec. we are city people at hindi probinsyano kungdi we are the capital, the major financial hub and perhaps the heart of this country. kaya hindi malipat ang malacanang sa tagaytay eh, kasi dapat nasa capital din ang house of the president.

the thing is if kung hindi gagamitin ang law panlaban sa ibang law at gagamitin ang common sense mas dadali buhay natin.

we are not seeing SSS or NBI kiosks na dumadaan pa sa mayors ng bawat city ng Manila. so ganun lang yun

**shadow** · March 25th, 2008 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by ringostarr

ganun ba eh bakit local govt. code ang ilalaban sa direct order ng national govt. or main executive branch. the one that they are part of

The executive order of the President was clear that it is recognizing the autonomy of the local government units as per the provisions of the Local Government Code

may sariling pseudo judicial branch ang exec dept. - dept. of justice. dun dapat mag-air ng greivance si Makati republic. and if to check the officials of the govt. may ombudsman naman

bakit naman sila pupunta ng DOJ, hinde naman criminal case ito...and bakit naman pupunta ng ombudsman eh hinde naman corruption case ito....

the problem with this Mayor of Makati. feeling niya citizen sya pareho natin.

the 3 branches of the govt. are solely created to service the filipino people, the citizens of the republic. hindi mga pulitiko.

citizen naman talaga sila ah...

kaya siguro napa-hello na lang yun dati may kasabay si binay na dapat tatanggalin sa puwesto na governor dun sa iloilo. si binay may pa TRO TRO pa. pero yun gobernador ni-relinquish post niya kasi nga naman dapat hindi na nila ginagamit yun pang mamamayan na proseso

from what I remember meron din TRO yun Gov ng Iloilo. but pwersahan silang pinaalis ng DILG and the man behind all of it Raul Gonzalez...

it's like in the military. may court martial kung may problema sa ranks nila. ganun din dapat sa pulitiko o mga official.

meron nga diba,,ombudsman?

although kung wala nga naman delicadeza ang isang pulitiko, gagamitin nya lahat para ma-save sarili niya, even to the extent of using his Makati regional trial court

sounds like the highest politician in our land...

using the full resources of the Gov't not just Makati to keep her in place...

hehehe

**shadow** · March 25th, 2008 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by ringostarr

the MM people has the final say kung ano dapat sa city na'to. and it shows naman na unfied ang gusto ng private motorists as well as transport groups. they want a SINGLE ticketing system para mas dumali buhay

yup, you're right but every cities have their leader which is the Mayors..so if majority of his constituents want this then petition the individual mayors to force to him to accept this scheme..

or come next election don;t put him back to his office....

the MMDA was created kasi special treatment ang Metro Manila. not bec. we are city people at hindi probinsyano kungdi we are the capital, the major financial hub and perhaps the heart of this country. kaya hindi malipat ang malacanang sa tagaytay eh, kasi dapat nasa capital din ang house of the president.

nope, if I remember it right it was created bec of Imelda Marcos...so she could be the Governor of Metro Manila..under a different name dati and ang alam ko beautification lang naman ang role niyang dati eh, kaya nga yun mga tao niyan is yun mga metro aides, tapos diba na absorb lang ng mga MMDA yun metro aide para maging traffic enforcers... and I think even now...kaya if they need MMDA to have authority then change MMDA's charter...

the thing is if kung hindi gagamitin ang law panlaban sa ibang law at gagamitin ang common sense mas dadali buhay natin.

ganun talaga eh, diba? I know malayo but like sa impeachment, diba kung common sense lang eh di sana matagal na na-impeach si GMA but they are using the technicalities of the law para hinde mag prosper....

we are not seeing SSS or NBI kiosks na dumadaan pa sa mayors ng bawat city ng Manila. so ganun lang yun

yes they are...dumadaan sa MAyors lahat yan...

**shadow** · March 25th, 2008 02:25 PM

ito mismo galing sa website ng MMDA.....

The METROPOLITAN MANILA DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY performs planning, monitoring and coordinative functions, and in the process exercise regulatory and supervisory authority over the delivery of metro-wide services within Metro Manila without diminution of the authority of the Local Government Units (LGUs) concerning purely local matters.

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[SIZE=2]Metro Manila Council[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3][SIZE=2]The Metro Manila Council is the policy making body and the governing board of the MMDA. It is composed of Mayors of all cities and municipalities in Metro Manila, President of Metro Manila Vice Mayors League and Councilors League, and the heads of DBM, DOTC, DPWH, HUDCC and PNP as non-voting members.[/SIZE][/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]Metro Manila Council[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]1. As policy-making body of the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority, the Council shall approve metro-wide plans, programs and projects; [/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]2. It shall issue rules and regulations and resolutions deemed necessary by the MMDA to carry out the plans, programs and projects;[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]3. It may increase the rate of allowances and per diems of the members of the Council to take effect during the term of the succeeding Council; [/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]4. It shall fix the compensation of the officers and personnel of the MMDA, and approve the annual budget thereof for submission to the DBM; [/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]5. It shall promulgate rules and regulations and set policies and standards for metro-wide application governing the delivery of basic services, prescribe and collect service and regulatory fees, and impose and collect fines and penalties.[/SIZE]

**creepy** · March 25th, 2008 03:21 PM

I think someone is missing the point. Sigh.

The mayors who are against the scheme are arguing against it because of legalities. Their arguments against it are NOT because it will be detrimental to motorists and commuters.

This charter or this legal code is being cited only to block this scheme.

You can cite the Constitution or the Makati Ordinance #%$*! but the fact of the matter is, if they ALL agree, then there should be no legal issue.

But why don't they want to agree?

What's important is the changes will benefit people. Please let's all focus on that and not on whether Makati City Hall will get a bigger cut.

**shadow** · March 25th, 2008 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by creepy

I think someone is missing the point. Sigh.

The mayors who are against the scheme are arguing against it because of legalities. Their arguments against it are NOT because it will be detrimental to motorists and commuters.

This charter or this legal code is being cited only to block this scheme.

You can cite the Constitution or the Makati Ordinance #%$*! but the fact of the matter is, if they ALL agree, then there should be no legal issue.

But why don't they want to agree?

What's important is the changes will benefit people. Please let's all focus on that and not on whether Makati City Hall will get a bigger cut.

it is not only Binay and the opposition mayors are against this scheme...even administration Mayors are against this new scheme...

if both admin and opposition mayors are crossing party line to reject this scheme then maybe something is really wrong on how MMDA wanted to implement this...

we have law, why wouldn't t I cite the legalities of this issue, if we won;t follow the law then, we'll be no difference to other animals

**suv** · March 26th, 2008 04:53 AM

Ok lang yan magbolohan sila.....

Sobrang bihira ako pumunta ng makati at pasay......

Kung may lakad kami ng barkada eh sa QC, Ortigas area na lang kasi marami ayaw pumunta ng makati..... Ang gulo-gulo doon.... puro one-way......tapos ang sikip ng mga kalye....