Why Single-ticketing System Opposed by other MM Mayors?

**ringostarr** · March 21st, 2008 11:08 PM

who cares about EO vs. judicial law ... lagi naman ganyan court battles law vs. law ang ginagamit

kung gusto ng transport groups, gusto ng private motorists then that alone serves the greater good. di na kelangan paglabanan pa.

why is it that Metro Manila mayors think they are equal with the Executive branch. kung sa mga probinsya yan, idadaan ng mga provincial mayors sa gobernador nila bago sila makareklamo sa presidente

feeling talaga mga metro manila mayors, feeling equal sa mga nasa national govt.

**shadow** · March 24th, 2008 09:32 AM

actually mayors are part of the executive dept....

wala talagang magagawa ang MMDA or whatever EO..Mayors have the local autonomy including the traffic management in their backyard...it is in our local gov't code...

kahit anong gawin walang magagawa ang MMDA..unless pumayag and mga Mayors...

I think the better idea is for local cities to have a reciprocal ticket acceptance..meaning pag nahuli ka sa QC and meron ka ng ticket, pag nahuli ka sa Makati ulit sa Makati eh since meron ka ng ticket sa QC eh hinde ko na ulit iissuehan sa Makati para hinde doble-doble ang babayran mong ticket vilations...

if not naman ang dapat gawin instead na mag sign ng EO para lang ma-appease yun mga nag strike na transport group eh GMA should ask congress na baguhin yun charter ng MMDA, give them legislative power...

**shadow** · March 24th, 2008 10:40 AM

narinig ko sa radio na yun hatian sa revenues ang hinde mapagkasunduan ang gusto ni Bayani eh for every P50 fine eh P30 ang mapupunta sa MMDA....hehehehe

wala nga naman Mayor na papayag sa ganyan hatian....

**m777** · March 24th, 2008 05:03 PM

mababawasan ang revenue ng mga cities na may sariling mga traffic rules. like makati. mas mataas ang minimum. P500 and uvvrp nila while sa mmda P300 lang.

**ringostarr** · March 25th, 2008 04:20 AM

how is it that only the opposition mayors oppose the idea? kasi yun mga kinikita nila sa pag huli, yun pinampopondo nila sa campaign nila against sa gobyerno

kaya talagang sayang

**ringostarr** · March 25th, 2008 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by shadow

actually mayors are part of the executive dept....

wala talagang magagawa ang MMDA or whatever EO..Mayors have the local autonomy including the traffic management in their backyard...it is in our local gov't code...

part pala sila ng executive branch eh bakit ang ginagamit nila eh judicial branch pangharang sa EO.

kahit anong gawin walang magagawa ang MMDA..unless pumayag and mga Mayors...

I think the better idea is for local cities to have a reciprocal ticket acceptance..meaning pag nahuli ka sa QC and meron ka ng ticket, pag nahuli ka sa Makati ulit sa Makati eh since meron ka ng ticket sa QC eh hinde ko na ulit iissuehan sa Makati para hinde doble-doble ang babayran mong ticket vilations...

if not naman ang dapat gawin instead na mag sign ng EO para lang ma-appease yun mga nag strike na transport group eh GMA should ask congress na baguhin yun charter ng MMDA, give them legislative power...

eh di ipitan lang pala talaga

last 2 weeks ago, nag national strike ang mga PUVs. hindi pala tungkol sa pagtaas ng gasolina ang pinaglaban nila kungdi sa rampant kotong nationwide, pulis, MMDA, traffic aide, baranggay tanod lahat nangogotong.

galit sila sa gobyerno kasi walang ginagawa ang gobyerno para eliminate ang kotong.

ngaun may single-ticketing na gusto nila ma-implement at may deadline pa sila sa gobyerno

tapos sa rally, kasama nila sila si Binay sa Makati. ang humahadlang sa gusto nila mangyari

puro panggulo lang ata talaga mga taong to. bahala na nga kayo .. who cares

**shadow** · March 25th, 2008 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by ringostarr

part pala sila ng executive branch eh bakit ang ginagamit nila eh judicial branch pangharang sa EO.

walang gagamit ng judicial branch kundi MMDA...not the Mayors...gusto na pumunta sa korte ni Bayani...hehehehe

eh di ipitan lang pala talaga

huwag na kasi pilitin ng MMDA ang hinde talaga pwede...feeling kasi ni Bayani angat siya sa mga Mayors eh,

mayor lang ng Marikina ang kaya niya...

Mayors are elected he on the other hand was just appointed...

and part ng "board" ng MMDA ang mga Mayors...si Bayani lang ang nag implement kung ano napagusapan ng mga Mayors...hehehe

bumalik na lang kasi siya as Mayor ng Marikina, para magawa niya lahat ng gusto niya...

last 2 weeks ago, nag national strike ang mga PUVs. hindi pala tungkol sa pagtaas ng gasolina ang pinaglaban nila kungdi sa rampant kotong nationwide, pulis, MMDA, traffic aide, baranggay tanod lahat nangogotong.

galit sila sa gobyerno kasi walang ginagawa ang gobyerno para eliminate ang kotong.

ngaun may single-ticketing na gusto nila ma-implement at may deadline pa sila sa gobyerno

before kasi magreklamo ang mga PUV drivers eh dapat ayusin nila ang mga members nila..sumunod muna sila sa mga traffic rules, para hinde sila hulihin..

na-spoiled kasi sila ng government natin eh..

tapos sa rally, kasama nila sila si Binay sa Makati. ang humahadlang sa gusto nila mangyari

kasama ba si Binay sa rally ng transport sectors?..hinde yata....si Bayani yata ang nag finance ng rally nila para ma pressure mga Mayors na pumayag sa gusto niya...hehehe ang nangyari naman si GMA ang na-pressure at gumawa ng EO, which wala naman kwenta...

**shadow** · March 25th, 2008 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by ringostarr

how is it that only the opposition mayors oppose the idea? kasi yun mga kinikita nila sa pag huli, yun pinampopondo nila sa campaign nila against sa gobyerno

kaya talagang sayang

that is not true based on this news article...

Mayors unite vs ticket scheme

MANILA, Philippines – Metro Manila mayors Monday crossed party lines to block the implementation of the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority’s (MMDA) single ticketing scheme.

Out of the 17 mayors that form the Metro Manila Council, 14 mayors and representatives met in the Mandaluyong City Hall to talk with members of the transport sector and voice their opposition against the MMDA’s Metro Traffic Ticketing Scheme (MTTS), which aims to harmonize the traffic violation penalties and citations in Metro Manila.

Opposition allies like Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay, Navotas City Mayor Toby Tiangco and San Juan City Mayor Joseph Victor “JV” Ejercito joined hands with administration supporters Mandaluyong City Mayor Benhur Abalos and Quezon City Feliciano Belmonte Jr. to denounce the scheme, which they said could diminish the autonomy of local governments. “The MMDA is not just Chairman (Bayani) Fernando. The policy-making body of the MMDA is the MMC, the mayors,” Abalos said.

Also present were Parañaque City Mayor Florencio Bernabe, Muntinlupa City Mayor Aldrin San Pedro, Pasay City Mayor Wenceslao Trinidad and Caloocan City Mayor Enrico Echiverri.

Mayors Alfredo Lim of Manila, Sigfrido Tinga of Taguig, Canuto Oreta of Malabon, Sherwin Gatchalian of Valenzuela City and Vergel Aguilar of Las Piñas sent representatives to the meeting.

Those who did not attend or send representatives were Mayors Robert Eusebio of Pasig City, Jaime Medina of Pateros and Marides Fernando of Marikina City, wife of MMDA Chair Fernando who is pushing for the scheme.------:obvious:
Metro Manila local government units currently issue different traffic citation tickets and impose varying penalties.

As such, motorists and public utility vehicle drivers and owners said the system is too costly and troublesome as traffic enforcers in another city do not recognize the traffic tickets from another local unit. The mayors are set to meet again on Friday.

**shadow** · March 25th, 2008 10:02 AM

MMDA has no power to arrest motorists – Abalos
By Non Alquitran
Tuesday, March 25, 2008 Mandaluyong City Mayor Benjamin Abalos Jr. said yesterday that Metro Manila Development Authority (MMDA) has no power to apprehend erring motorists in the metropolis because this power rests with the local governments.

Abalos met yesterday with 14 of 17 mayors in Metro Manila and various transport groups to thresh out issues on Executive Order 712 or the single ticketing system signed recently by President Arroyo.

Abalos said he had earlier met with other mayors to resolve the controversial single ticketing system, which enables the MMDA to apprehend traffic violators in the metropolis.

Makati City Mayor Jejomar Binay agreed with Abalos’ position for local governments to recognize the Ordinance Violation Receipts (OVRs) issued by other local governments, rather than the single ticketing scheme. He added that the MMDA is only deputized to man the streets and maintain the smooth flow of traffic.

He said the authority to apprehend drivers is still with the local government units (LGUs).

Abalos asked all Metro mayors to attend a meeting with MMDA Chairman Bayani Fernando this Friday “to clarify issues and harmonize everything.”

The issues on whether the OVR will be acknowledged during apprehensions involving traffic violation outside Metro Manila was also raised by 1-Utak president Vigor Mendoza.

Abalos reiterated his position to implement his city’s own OVR, but “it does not mean to mess up with Executive Order 712.”

“The executive order of the President was clear that it is recognizing the autonomy of the local government units as per the provisions of the Local Government Code,” he stressed.

Of the 17 city mayors, six - Joseph Victor Ejercito, San Juan; Toby Tiangco, Navotas; Freddie Tiñga, Taguig; Wenceslao Trinidad, Pasay; Alfredo Lim, Manila; and Binay - did not sign the resolution of MMDA for a unified ticketing system.

For his part, Trinidad said the city government of Pasay would acknowledge OVRs of towns and cities outside Metro Manila.

Earlier, Fernando warned the mayors who opposed the implementation of Executive Order 712 in the metropolis would face suspension if they refuse to heed the presidential order.

The MMDA chairman said the Department of Interior and Local Government (DILG) could also sanction mayors for not following a presidential directive.

Fernando said the executive order supersedes the local ordinances passed by the LGUs thus “those who do not follow it have the chances of getting sanctions based on the provision of the Local Government Code.”

hinde pala tayo pwedeng hulihin ng MMDA...

Fernando said the executive order supersedes the local ordinances passed by the LGUs

The executive order of the President was clear that it is recognizing the autonomy of the local government units as per the provisions of the Local Government Code,

^^^totoo ba ito? parang hinde ah...can EO replace an existing ordinances?
question sa mga taga Marikina, nun time ba ni Bayani as MAyor eh pinapayagan niya pakialaman siya ng MMDA?...

**creepy** · March 25th, 2008 11:44 AM

Before we talk about EOs and legalities, first ask: what's wrong with having a unified ticketing system for the entire Metro Manila? Obvious naman na tumututol lang sina Binay, Peewee para manggulo lamang (o dahil mababawasan ang "kita").

They're only resorting to legalities (e.g. EO vs. Local Govt Code, nature of MMDA) as a cop-out to what's the real issue: an organized system for Metro Manila.

Hihirit ba si Binay ng ganyan kung si Erap ang presidente????!!! He's always making snide comments against the MMDA (and Bayani) and throwing up obstacles to the proper functioning of the agency.

It's obvious that Binay's bitter because it's generally accepted that Binay was a total failure as MMDA chair. Bayani Fernando, for all his failings, has been much much better.