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    #11
    May nagsabi sakin kahit daw don sa rehab may nagbebenta parin ng shabu??? Kung totoo.... pano nayon????

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    #12
    i have a rehabilitated friend who got addicted to S for 7 years.
    i've noticed lang is yung bad teeth, tsaka weird behavior. may pagkamakulit. nung di pa naman addict yun, di ganung kakulit.

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    #13
    bad teeth...especially the front ones.

    irrational, delusional and paranoid. iyan ang pinakanakakatakot na stage imo

    btw, ito pa rin ba ang drug of choice ng mga adik? parang wala na ko naririnig masyado na shabu addicts kasi eh

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by happy_gilmore View Post
    i have a rehabilitated friend who got addicted to S for 7 years.
    i've noticed lang is yung bad teeth, tsaka weird behavior. may pagkamakulit. nung di pa naman addict yun, di ganung kakulit.
    "rehabilitated" Sir? Baka pwede mo ishare kung pano nangyari... kasi yong mga replies na dito eh parang useless ang rehab?

    Pano kasi kung wala siyang lakas ng loob para tulungan sarili niya? Yon ata ang pinakamahirap. Sana may tulong ng ganon sa rehab. May mga private rehab center po ba o napakamahal sa mga ganito?

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    #15
    Yung mga government-run rehab clinics ang useless, gaya nung nasa Bicutan. Dun kasi, may physical pain na ini-inflict daw sa mga patients, kasi mostly mahirap lang ang mga nire-rehab dun. Ang trato din sa kanila, parang kriminal na din.

    Ok yung mga privately-run rehab centers, kaya lang it's too expensive. Mostly upper class lang ang nakaka-afford. Biruin mo, 2 month rehab program, more than 100k ang fee.

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    #16
    pa-try mo bungee jumping o parachuting or rock climbing

    tapos sabihin mo may "premyo" sa taas ng bundok o sa baba pag nakatalon na siya

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    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Galactus View Post
    Yung mga government-run rehab clinics ang useless, gaya nung nasa Bicutan. Dun kasi, may physical pain na ini-inflict daw sa mga patients, kasi mostly mahirap lang ang mga nire-rehab dun. Ang trato din sa kanila, parang kriminal na din.

    Ok yung mga privately-run rehab centers, kaya lang it's too expensive. Mostly upper class lang ang nakaka-afford. Biruin mo, 2 month rehab program, more than 100k ang fee.
    100k!!!!! pero kung gagaling pwede na rin siguro!

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    #18
    ilang signs din ay...
    = na e-excite siya kapag nakakakita ng aluminum foil.
    = kapag nanghiram ka ng lighter, wala na yung metal part sa top part ng kanyang disposable lighter.
    = nabubungal ang upper front teeth dahil sa shabu (acid daw kasi ito?)
    = mahilig magbenta ng kung anu-anong items sa murang halaga.

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    #19
    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue View Post
    pa-try mo bungee jumping o parachuting or rock climbing

    tapos sabihin mo may "premyo" sa taas ng bundok o sa baba pag nakatalon na siya


    "premyo" as in what???

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    #20
    From www.stopmethaddiction.com

    Meth Users

    Meth users ingest meth several different ways. Meth can be smoked, snorted, orally ingested, or injected. The drug alters moods in different ways, depending on how it is taken. Immediately after smoking the drug or injecting it intravenously, meth users experience an intense rush that lasts only a few minutes and is described as extremely pleasurable. Snorting or oral ingestion produces euphoria -- a high but not an intense rush. Meth users who snort the drug experience effects within 3 to 5 minutes, and oral ingestion produces effects within 15 to 20 minutes.

    As with similar stimulants, meth users often go on a "binge and crash" pattern. Because tolerance for methamphetamine occurs within minutes -- meaning that the pleasurable effects disappear even before the drug concentration in the blood falls significantly -- meth users try to maintain the high by binging on the drug.

    Meth users go through three stages:: low intensity, binge, and high intensity. The binge and high-intensity meth users smoke or inject meth to achieve a faster and stronger high; the patterns of abuse differ in the frequency in which the drug is abused and the stages within their cycles.

    The binge abuse cycle is made up of these stages: rush, high, binge, tweaking, crash, normal, and withdrawal.

    Rush (5-30 minutes) -The abuser's heartbeat races and metabolism, blood pressure, and pulse soar. Feelings of pleasure.

    High (4-16 hours) -The methamphetamine addict often feels aggressively smarter and becomes argumentative.

    Binge (3-15 days) -The methamphetamine addict maintains the high for as long as possible and becomes hyperactive, both mentally and physically.

    Tweaking -The most dangerous stage of the cycle. See section below.

    Crash (1-3 days) -The addict does not pose a threat to anyone. He becomes very lethargic and sleeps.

    Normal (2-14 days) -The abuser returns to a state that is slightly deteriorated from the normal state before the abuse.

    Withdrawal (30-90 days) -No immediate symptoms are evident but the abuser first becomes depressed and then lethargic. The craving for methamphetamine hits and he may becomes suicidal. Taking methamphetamine at any time during withdrawal can stop the unpleasant feelings so, consequently, a high percentage of addicts in treatment return to abuse.

    High-intensity meth users, often called "speed freaks," focus on preventing the crash. But each successive rush becomes less euphoric and it takes more meth to achieve it. The pattern does not usually include a state of normalcy or withdrawal. High-intensity abusers experience extreme weight loss, very pale facial skin, sweating, body odor, discolored teeth and scars or open sores on their bodies. The scars are the results of the abusers' hallucinations of bugs on his skin, often referred to as "crank bugs," and attempts to scratch the bugs off.

    When it comes to meth users the most dangerous stage of their abuse for themselves, medical personnel, and law enforcement officers is what is known as "tweaking." A tweaker is a methamphetamine addict who probably has not slept in 3-15 days and is irritable and paranoid. Tweakers often behave or react violently and if a tweaker is using alcohol or another depressant, his negative feelings and associated dangers intensify. The tweaker craves more meth, but no dosage will help re-create the euphoric high, which causes frustration, and leads to unpredictability and potential for violence.

    A meth user who is tweaking can appear normal: eyes can be clear, speech concise, and movements brisk. But a closer look will reveal the person's eyes are moving ten times faster than normal, the voice has a slight quiver, and movements are quick and jerky. These physical signs are more difficult to identify if the meth user is using a depressant.


    Click the sites below for a visual view of what shabu, ice, crystal meth can do to a person.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/news/orego....ata?g_id=2927

    http://www.methmadness.com/addictfacesofmethL.jpg

    http://www.stopmethaddiction.com/pic-meth-users.htm
    Last edited by redorange; September 11th, 2007 at 11:42 AM.

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