Too many PASAWAY motorcycle RIDERS on the street

[foresterx]

there are too much motorcycles, but motorcycles do not take up too much space in traffic.

I can also say that traffic congestion is due to private cars. most of the time I see cars or SUVs with only a single passenger inside-- imagine the space that car occupies compared to a lone rider.

here's a nice comparative poster/picture:

you know what's funny about this picture? look at the cars, they're properly in line. now look at the MC's, even on a picture taking they can't stay on their line, parang gusto parin sumingit nung iba.:bwahaha:

[Leviticus]

you know what's funny about this picture? look at the cars, they're properly in line. now look at the MC's, even on a picture taking they can't stay on their line, parang gusto parin sumingit nung iba.:bwahaha:

see the gaps between the cars in line? that equates to wasted road space. now imagine all those bikes occupying the space of a car in traffic.

[foresterx]

it's not a wasted space, it's called a safe distance which most MC riders doesn't know since kahit napaka liit na gap papasukin nung mga yan.

[Leviticus]

it's not a wasted space, it's called a safe distance which most MC riders doesn't know since kahit napaka liit na gap papasukin nung mga yan.

that's a myth.

so you would rather subtract a lane for cars and dedicate it for motorcycles?

that would make AUTOMOBILE traffic longer, not to mention a domino effect traffic for motorcycles.

also, MOST MC riders? tanong ko lang ha, have YOU ever traveled on a motorcycle and go through the traffic of metro manila?

[Leviticus]

here's a thought for those who keep on insisting on a motorcycle lane.

while driving in your cars, keep to only 1 lane and don't transfer from lane to lane. consider also how will you go up flyovers, underpass, and u-turn slots.

also, which lane will you stay on? the left-most? the right-most? the middle? so that when you propose a motorcycle lane, you will have an idea/answer when I ask "where do you propose to position the motorcycle lane?"

[foresterx]

that's a myth.

so you would rather subtract a lane for cars and dedicate it for motorcycles?

that would make AUTOMOBILE traffic longer, not to mention a domino effect traffic for motorcycles.

also, MOST MC riders? tanong ko lang ha, have YOU ever traveled on a motorcycle and go through the traffic of metro manila?

are you really that dumb to think safe driving distance is a myth? even when i'm riding an MC i keep a safe driving distance on other vehicles behind, in front, beside me.

did i ever say give motorcycles it's own lane?

also yes i used to have a sinski bigboy, wave125, raider150 and a cb400 that i used to ride every day to work. one of the reasons i got rid of it is because sobra dami na dumb MC riders about 90% of them actually and metro manila isn't safe anymore for riding an MC. planning to purchase a buell xb12s in the future but will only use it for week end fun runs and stay away from dumb MC riders.

no car can give me as much fun when i'm riding an MC, but i admit that almost all MC riders don't follow traffic rules. even about 40-50% of big bike owners don't follow traffic rules. that's why pag sumasama ako sa mga fun run dati pinipili ko lang mga kasama ko, usually close friends lang ang kasama ko.

[sgt_taga]

hmmm some reasonings/arguments on this thread are getting more and more ridiculous.

hay... clear signs of the type of intellect on the roads in the metro.

kaya walang maayos-ayos eh. tsk tsk

[Leviticus]

are you really that dumb to think safe driving distance is a myth? even when i'm riding an MC i keep a safe driving distance on other vehicles behind, in front, beside me.

did i ever say give motorcycles it's own lane?

also yes i used to have a sinski bigboy, wave125, raider150 and a cb400 that i used to ride every day to work. one of the reasons i got rid of it is because sobra dami na dumb MC riders about 90% of them actually and metro manila isn't safe anymore for riding an MC. planning to purchase a buell xb12s in the future but will only use it for week end fun runs and stay away from dumb MC riders.

no car can give me as much fun when i'm riding an MC, but i admit that almost all MC riders don't follow traffic rules. even about 40-50% of big bike owners don't follow traffic rules. that's why pag sumasama ako sa mga fun run dati pinipili ko lang mga kasama ko, usually close friends lang ang kasama ko.

look at the picture again. tell me, in your years of riding and driving, what is the safe distance between vehicles IN STANDSTILL TRAFFIC?

keep in mind that our discussion is revolving around the picture I posted. note the gaps in between cars-- a person can walk with more than enough space in between these spaces.

cars can't go anywhere when stuck in traffic. lane splitting/filtering is acceptable when done in a safe manner. nasa rider na kung tantyado nya ang gap between lanes-- angkop dapat sa laki ng sasakyan nya.

if you didn't mention anything about motorcycle lanes, you would rather motorcycles get in line and occupy the space of a car?

[Leviticus]

hmmm some reasonings/arguments on this thread are getting more and more ridiculous.

hay... clear signs of the type of intellect on the roads in the metro.

kaya walang maayos-ayos eh. tsk tsk

tell me about it.

to think iisa lang ang pinagkukunan natin ng mga lisensya natin

[foresterx]

look at the picture again. tell me, in your years of riding and driving, what is the safe distance between vehicles IN STANDSTILL TRAFFIC?

keep in mind that our discussion is revolving around the picture I posted. note the gaps in between cars-- a person can walk with more than enough space in between these spaces.

cars can't go anywhere when stuck in traffic. lane splitting/filtering is acceptable when done in a safe manner. nasa rider na kung tantyado nya ang gap between lanes-- angkop dapat sa laki ng sasakyan nya.

if you didn't mention anything about motorcycle lanes, you would rather motorcycles get in line and occupy the space of a car?

on a stand still traffic, as long as i can see the whole car hangang sa rear tires ok na sa akin. yung iba kasi naka tutok to the point you can see the plate number of the car. pag umaandar i follow the 2 second rule some thing i'm sure you or most MC riders don't know. when i'm on an MC i make it 3 second rule and always stay away from the blind spot of cars beside me. pero that all depends on road/traffic condition.

[foresterx]

ganun? eh di baseless ang pinagsasabi mo. puro ka yabang at napaka-arogante.

so much for obtaining those three licenses from other countries where you actually need to study to pass the exams. how can you prove what you are saying if you can't show the credentials to back it up?

panay sweeping generalization ka about other motorists but when it comes to you specifically, urong ang buntot.

hypocrite.

i'm smart enough not to post that much self info on a public forum. baka maging stalker pa kita.

also i didn't generalize anything, it is the truth. if you can't accept that about 90% of MC riders ay mga pasaway then you're probably one of them. just look at our roads and open your eyes, don't think as an MC rider, think as a regular motorist on the road wag mag bulag bulagan. just look at the MC riders you see daily more than half of them don't even wear the proper gear yung ibang nga naka sakay pa ang mga anak at asawa nila na walang helmet and also replace their side mirror's with a smaller one that you can barely see out off at madami pa iba but it will be a long list. if they don't even care about their own safety, what makes you think they care about the other motorist that shares the road with them?

[aries.domingo]

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well said... tsk, tsk, tsk...

[aries.domingo]

369 posts = 369 incidents.

does the 369 incidents comprise the majority of 3,200,968 motorcycle riders?

that 3,200,968 number, I pulled it out from the LTO website. THAT'S how you quantify.

doing the math, your 369 incidents only amount to 0.01%<-- is THAT the majority?!?

I don't think so.

ahh... 3,200,968 sa buongn pilipinas... bakit sir, may Edsa at C5 ba sa ibang lugar? Alam ko kasi dito lang sa MM lang yun e. 369 posts of SOME car owners, well might not be what you call "THE MAJORITY" but statistically, you can infer based on this figure. Not all can be calculated by Math sir. May statistics tayo... We can get an educated guess... Not everything is exact.

[aries.domingo]

oh.. galing. me or most MC riders ba kamo? how sure are you of my riding/driving capability?

prejudiced ka na agad and would rather resort to sweeping generalization. how arrogant of you.

sige na nga. ikaw na ang magaling while everyone else should bow in your greatness.

btw.. that license you are carrying is not an indication of your driving/riding abilities and experience.

Leviticus, ang sabi niya ay "you OR most"... iba po ang ibig sabihinin ng OR... and if you will back read... ikaw po yung lumalabas na "prejudiced" dito...

[aries.domingo]

yup. you shot yourself in the foot there. ikaw mismo ang pruweba ng observation mo

nope. I think we will all agree ikaw ang tinataman noon sir at hindi kami...

[aries.domingo]

ganun? eh di baseless ang pinagsasabi mo. puro ka yabang at napaka-arogante.

so much for obtaining those three licenses from other countries where you actually need to study to pass the exams. how can you prove what you are saying if you can't show the credentials to back it up?

panay sweeping generalization ka about other motorists but when it comes to you specifically, urong ang buntot.

hypocrite.

di lahat nang di nakikita ay di totoo... ano ba yan leviticus?! baseless? komo ayaw niyang ipakita?! labo...

[aries.domingo]

you seemed to be really devoid of the usual common sense with the way you attempt to insult others.

just to be straight with you, i was referring to your amazing cognitive skills when it comes to your logic.

i said "huh" because your unsolicited response to my post did not make any sense whatsoever.

anyway, i just indulged you with this response as i though a little help to put your reasoning back on track is useful.

still no intention of joining the hostilities here as i've mentioned.

you can reply all you want (as its mindless not expect you anyway) to this but who cares?

you're not getting anything from me after this.

mukhang ganon na nga...

[aries.domingo]

i'm smart enough not to post that much self info on a public forum. baka maging stalker pa kita.

also i didn't generalize anything, it is the truth. if you can't accept that about 90% of MC riders ay mga pasaway then you're probably one of them. just look at our roads and open your eyes, don't think as an MC rider, think as a regular motorist on the road wag mag bulag bulagan. just look at the MC riders you see daily more than half of them don't even wear the proper gear yung ibang nga naka sakay pa ang mga anak at asawa nila na walang helmet and also replace their side mirror's with a smaller one that you can barely see out off at madami pa iba but it will be a long list. if they don't even care about their own safety, what makes you think they care about the other motorist that shares the road with them?

sir, kailangan kasi ng COMMON SENSE para makita yan...

[Leviticus]

ahh... 3,200,968 sa buongn pilipinas... bakit sir, may Edsa at C5 ba sa ibang lugar? Alam ko kasi dito lang sa MM lang yun e. 369 posts of SOME car owners, well might not be what you call "THE MAJORITY" but statistically, you can infer based on this figure. Not all can be calculated by Math sir. May statistics tayo... We can get an educated guess... Not everything is exact.

then why did you use the 369 posts here as your basis?

at last naintindihan mo na rin ang MAJORITY. nangyayari lang ang mga napapansin mo SA LUGAR MO, which does not make it the majority.

you actually added meaning to what I am trying to infer to you.

statistics? then show us here your statistics.

btw.. math and statistics ha.

[Starex_Gold]

Nag-sasagutan pa eh pare-pareho lang naman.