Not Visible No Left Turn Sign

**jeffvasquez28** · September 29th, 2014 06:39 PM

Bawal pala talaga mag-left dun. yun traffic lights kasi jan meron ka window para makakaliwa agad. First time ko mag-left dito nagaalangan ako dahil sa line. tapos lahat ng nasa unahan ko e nag-left na. Akala ko pwede, kaya sumunod ako. Isa sa mga traps ng mapsa yan. Madami streets din sa makati na may turn arrows pero pinagbawal na mag-turn, yun wala arrows pwede ka mag-turn. Ang gulo tuloy. Ano kaya pinagaaralan ng mga city engineers.

Di na ko mag-turn ulit dyan. Aminado mali din ako noon. Iwas huli na rin.

**marky0910** · September 29th, 2014 07:37 PM

Sir meron sign, yung road marking na straight arrow lang, kung pwedeng mag left eh dapat may arrow na pa left din.

**leodawesome** · September 29th, 2014 08:10 PM

If its given that there is no left arrow sign on the road, I think TS is primarily concerned on the sign not being on the proper post. Madami din ganyan sa Espana manila. Yung mga no left sign nandun sa kabilang kalsada. Makikita mo lang kapag nakapwesto kana pakaliwa, or sobrang linaw ng mata mo. Minsan kasi yung arrows sa kalsada di mo na makikita kapag may build up na sa unahan mo. Its still supposed to be visible bago ka magtry kumaliwa. Kotong spot lang yang lugar na yan. Notice how many MAPSA are there on a single intersection.

**_Cathy_** · September 29th, 2014 08:27 PM

Sa BGC wala rin masyado left turn signal. Sometimes I still encounter cars that would flash me (kahit malayo pa sila) when I am turning left at go sila. I would think that they are not familiar with BGC so they don't know this rule (Left turn with caution). I just hate bring thought of as an aSShole

BTT: When driving in Makati, always drive with extra caution and paranoia. Outsiders or people not familiar with the city are an easy target for MAPSA. Bukod sa nakakalito na dahil sa mga one ways/no left/no right etc nagkalat pa mapsa.

**aloofkid** · September 29th, 2014 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by Mguy

For me, I would not have turned left for any reason because of the following:

1. There is no left turn signal light
2. The road markings shows that the arrow is going straight lang. No left turn is allowed.
3. This is Makati. Aside from following signs, you must use common sense where there are no signs at all.

Having said that, obviously this is just one of the many traps Makati has laid out to entrap erring drivers. I have heard that line "Pinag-aralan na yan" much to often. Obviously, di pa yata nagtapos ng grade school yun nag-aral nyan. So, stay safe na lang. Again, use common sense na lang kapag kulang sa signage.

And also, I would think na bawal rin kumaliwa sa Shakey's. Di lang na-en-enforce.

boss, pwede po pumasok sa shakey's. Enforcer na po nag sabi. Saka most of the time pag hinahatid ko GF ko dyan kami sa shakey's na pasok. pag pauwi ako ng babay kaliwa ako vito cruz. So medyo nakakalito na rin specially almost everyday dun ang way ko.

saka sometimes pag kaka go lang ng traffic light cars in front of me turn left, kaya akala ko pwede tlga mag left turn.

Most of the time kasi umaasa ako sa signs than the markings. Kasi dito sa signs din bumabatay ang mga enforcer eh yun ang napapansin ko.

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**Mguy** · September 30th, 2014 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by aloofkid

boss, pwede po pumasok sa shakey's. Enforcer na po nag sabi.

Yun ang problem dyan. Since when driving, you look at the markings and you usually cant ask an enforcer kung pwede mag left. Gumagawa sila ng sarili nilang patakaran. Who knows, pwede rin nilang bawiin the next day yan. I also tend not to follow what the cars in front of me do, since maraming drivers dont follow the signs there.

There is also the comfort factor. Palagi ka nandyan at sabi mo nga ginawa mo na dati yan, despite the obvious markings. Dito ng sa Pasig malapit sa simbahan, may one way street na notorious na maraming nag go go against the flow at di hinuhuli. Natyempo lang may nag enforce.

**mykpogi** · September 30th, 2014 08:45 AM

kumusta sir ang pag contest ?

**KingReyes** · September 30th, 2014 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by _Qwerty_

so how are you going to turn left kung naka GO yung kasalubong mo?

Kaya walang left signal light kasi bawal kumaliwa.. it's common sense sir.. pag walang left turn signal light... it's safe not to turn left.

You turn left when clear or with caution, following right-of-way rules. Hindi porke walang left signal light Sir bawal na lagi kumaliwa. Good examples are intersections in BGC.

Also, I'm not saying all NY road rules are the same here in PH, but here's a reference that discusses turning left on intersections with three-aspect traffic lights: Chapter 5: Intersections and Turns | New York State DMV

I know na may road marking dun sa kalsada with a straight arrow, pero kung may sasakyan sa ibabaw nyan when you approached the intersection hindi rin sya helpful. I also know na may no left turn sign dun sa intersection as pointed out by the TS but again, it's not positioned to be helpful either. Hehe.

**aloofkid** · October 1st, 2014 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by Mguy

Yun ang problem dyan. Since when driving, you look at the markings and you usually cant ask an enforcer kung pwede mag left. Gumagawa sila ng sarili nilang patakaran. Who knows, pwede rin nilang bawiin the next day yan. I also tend not to follow what the cars in front of me do, since maraming drivers dont follow the signs there.

There is also the comfort factor. Palagi ka nandyan at sabi mo nga ginawa mo na dati yan, despite the obvious markings. Dito ng sa Pasig malapit sa simbahan, may one way street na notorious na maraming nag go go against the flow at di hinuhuli. Natyempo lang may nag enforce.

Yun sir ang concern ko, lagi na po ako dumadaan dun at hindi ko siya nakikita, kung hindi pa ako nahuli for sure until now hindi ko parin alam na may nakalagay na No Left Turn sign dun sa Vito Cruz.

If the marking states na derecho lang, dapat pinag bawal na din kumaliwa papuntang Shakey's just to avoid confusion.

Or para talaga mas mayos, i-lagay nila ito sa poste dun sa KFC or somewhere visible.

PS to all readers:
Just notice that it is not Vito Cruz, it is Pablo Ocampo.

**nori** · October 1st, 2014 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by K.I.L.L.

The law applies to all or none at all. Unfortunately, almost everyone in Government think that they are a higher class compared to us ordinary citizens so the laws of the land do not apply to them. They have no shame.

true. kaya sinasabihan kong ang kakapal ng face ng officemates ko pag nagviolate sila ng traffic law tapos gagamitin yung ID namin panakot sa mga TE. mga mokong naman tawa lang, considered kasing "third world" citizens ang mga TE dahil nga mababa lang position nila.

actually kahit govt employee nagbu-bully ng kapwa employee tapos sila ang main office or branch. imbis na kakausapin ka ng maayos ay idadamba sa mukha mo yung ID nila, eh pwede ko nga silang alilain sa baba ng position nila kung tutuusin. kaasar talaga sa government, whether you're a part of it or not.