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March 10th, 2012 01:42 PM #31napunta na sa bunutan ng baril ang usapan ah.. nakow... nakalayo na yung aroganteng drayber....
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March 10th, 2012 01:57 PM #32
sir by law you are still not allowed to shoot them.... kahit na may hawak pa sila ng bote... by law hangang hindi hinahampas sayo yun bote, sorry to say it is still not considered self defense... because your life at that time is not yet in imminent danger.... pwede ka pang tumakbo... pag na corner ka na no where to run at sinabihan mo sila na wag lalapit then lumapit pa din sila despite your clear warnings... then you can shoot them only to disable them... one shot to the lower part of the body would do it.... but a shot to the head... mahihirapan ka nang ijustify yan... kasi and ginawa mo is to kill na not to disable...
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March 10th, 2012 05:59 PM #34
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March 10th, 2012 11:03 PM #35
i agree and disagree with you bro, usually anti gun groups will say that but pro gun groups will say other wise. but no, there are loop holes in a lot of our laws. by law a firearm owner is only allowed to use his/her firearm if we encounter imminent danger in our life. now that doesn't mean that we are allowed to shoot to kill the threat but it doesn't say that we can't shoot to kill either. in our law it says that we can shoot to eliminate the threat in our life, see how unclear that is.
now regarding when to draw and shoot, as long as a culprit is already attacking you no matter how far they are from you, you may engage the attacker. you can draw and let the culprit know you have a firearm and tell him to stop, if the culprit keeps going then shoot. you don't have to be cornered and wait for him to stab you before you shoot that's just plain stupid. but yes as much as possible if you can get away from that kind of situation it's a lot better than shooting someone. also in a situation like that our mind panics, we can't think clearly and our body doesn't move that easily so for me you're already cornered if your body and mind isn't functioning properly.
there are thousands of situations where an attacker kept attacking even though they've been shot multiple times already, so i will keep shooting until the person is down on the ground and can't move anymore. i don't care if kill him or not as long as i'm sure that i have eliminated the threat in my life and my life is safe.
Here's what i would do if i can.
1) Active "Threat" Identified
2) Create distance to "Threat" while shouting verbal commands to STOP.
3) Check for possible collateral damage (Persons/Object besides and behind "Threat") while getting behind object(s) that provide ballistic cover if any.
4) Engage "Threat" with 2 rounds to COM (center of mass) area and 1 round to the neck/head.
5) Assess "Threat" and do a quick scan your 360 for any additional "Threat".
6) If "Threat" is still Active then Repeat Number 4, 5 and 6.
so for me shoot now do the talking later. it's a lot better to be alive and unhurt facing the judge for my trial than to be in the hospital fighting for your life or dead. my top priority is to defend and preserve my life, i'll let my lawyer do all the talking that's why i have a lawyer.
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March 11th, 2012 01:04 AM #36
no matter how we put it... we are all part of this beautiful mess called ANARCHY.
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March 11th, 2012 01:16 AM #37
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March 11th, 2012 03:18 AM #38
The best is file a complaint sa LTFRB. That's why all PUVS (taxis/jeeps) have signs at their trunk to report to LTFRB for complaints! If proven guilty, suspended franchise nila. Problem lang is hectic at weekdays lang ang court hearing so sagabal sa schedule. But at least you give justice to everyone.
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March 11th, 2012 07:36 AM #39
sir if you do no. 2... by law its right...
no. 3... that is not to disable that is already to kill... a shot to the neck and head will kill him... sir may hawak lang na bote yung mga lasing sa leeg at ulo mo na agad puputukan? if you can shoot the neck and head why not try shooting the bottle first or make a warning shot... or worst shoot his legs and feet..... may baril ka... sya may bote na hawak (at most probably mga lasing NA LASING pa) and your life is in danger? or is it the other way around? AND then you have a lawyer that will do all the talking... your lawyer will tell you all you want to hear... but in the end DECISION pa din ng Judge ang masusunod...
It is basic that for self-defense to prosper, the following requisites must concur: (1) there must be unlawful aggression by the victim; (2) that the means employed to prevent or repel such aggression were reasonable; and (3) that there was lack of sufficient provocation on the part of the person defending himself.
2. Reasonable necessity of the means employed:
Whether the means employed is reasonable or not, will depend upon the kind of weapon of the aggressor, his physical condition, character, size, and other circumstances as well as those of the person attacked and the time and place of the attack.
Mahirap po pala malasing at mapaaway sa isang responsible gun owner kung ganun....
sabi mo kasi stop... the "drunk" or lasing most probably po hindi ka naintindihan at lasing nga.... sa leeg at ulo mo kaagad puputukan?
dati sir napaaway na din ako sa lasing... binigyan ko ng push like jab in the face... bagsak agad... tumakbo ako then hinabol ako nung 3 kasama na mga lasing din... may mga hawak na bote... lahat po sila nadapa sa kalasingan... he.he... grabe tawa ko nung... balikan ko pa nga sana mga humabol... pero wag na problema at kaso lang yan....Last edited by glenn manikis; March 11th, 2012 at 07:39 AM.
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March 11th, 2012 08:24 AM #40
i have an uncle that weighs 270lbs and diabetic, should he wait for his attackers to hit him or stab him or corner him before he fights back? even if it's just a fist fight you really think a person with that condition can defend himself?
i have a friend who just had his brain tumor removed and one hit to the head can do serious damage or even kill him, he can't fight a fist fight since his surgery weakened him pretty badly and like i said one punch to the head can be fatal, should he still fight in a fist fight?
i'm not saying i will shoot to kill, but i will shoot until my attacker is down and can't move anymore. if he dies i wouldn't care as long as i'm unhurt and alive. in a life and death situation i doubt anyone would worry about the law because i'm sure all you'll be able to think about is to survive no matter what.
there are situations you can't avoid, if someone attacks me i will do anything and everything to protect my life because i value it. no law can prevent me from protecting my life and tell me what and what not to do in a life and death situation.
this will be my last reply to your post since this is not the place to discuss this. if you want to continue this post in the gun thread that we have on this forum.
bebe eksa, saan kayo nagchuchurch???
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