ALERT: Goons with Guns - Isuzu Trooper "MLP-636"

**emersonc** · January 29th, 2010 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699

please read the red txt. yun answer ko

[SIZE=2]kung ako kuhanan nang picture na nakalabas na baril ko, ipuputok ko na yun kasi pareho lang din ang kaso kung meron man.
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[SIZE=2][SIZE=2]>[/SIZE]naku paps sana wala kang baril. dahil kung meron malamang may masasaktan sooner or later kung ganyan ang attitude mo. at iba paps ang kaso ng pagpapakita ng baril vs pamamaril (lalo na kung may nasaktan o namatay).

ano nangyari dun? wala din naman dba. natatawa pa ngayon yun kasi wala din naman nangyari dun sa pinagsasabi nya
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[SIZE=2]>again, at least madami ang nakakaalam. deterent din itong mga forums na ito kahit papaano. kung may kaso, well and good. pero kasi ung mga ganitong forms of media, may silbi pa din. kung well informed ang tao, at least maiiwasan na at wala ng confrontation. kasi kung di ko alam ito, di din ito malalaman ng mga mahal ko sa buhay. again, pag informed ang isang tao, may chance sya na umiwas.[/SIZE]

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tried to do something? katulad nang pumutak lang pero wala naman ginawa para matapos?

[SIZE=2]> "tried to do something" is subjective. you have your own ways, others have them too.[/SIZE]

hindi ko risk sarili ko sa pagkuha nang picture kasi baka pagkuha ko nang picture may tendency na mas provoke ko pa yun lalo na barilin ako.

> tama ka. i respect that. pero at some point, this culture of impunity has to stop. kasi para sa akin (and i hope you respect my opinion) kapag may mali, dapat itama. hindi ung pababayaan na lang kasi "di naman ako affected" or "ayoko mabaril". and i totally agree with you na mahirap i-risk ang buhay lalo na kung pamilyado ang isang tao. pero at some point in our lives, we have to accept that we must stand up for what is right no matter what the price will be. otherwise, we will belong to the dogs. call me optimistic or idealistic, but we have to be positive in more ways than one.

we don't know kung sino mali at tama sa kanila. baka pareho sila mali kaya nagawa nung manong trooper
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[SIZE=2]>i have to agree with you on this. kasi di din naman natin alam kung paano ung paraan ng "pagpapaliwanag" ni mr. civic. maari kasi na si manong trooper eh threatened at that time[/SIZE]

so moral of the story
1. keep a cool head at all times. be rational. think multiple times before doing anything.
2. magbigayan. kung ginigipit ka - ikaw magbigay. kung ikaw may right of way at siningitan ka - magbigay ka pa din. and hope and pray that other people will be infected by this "bigayan virus"
3. kung mali, don't perpetuate at itama agad. again, maraming channels and avenues to do something that is right and this includes ways wherein you do not risk your life. be creative and find out.

PEACE brother.

happy motoring everyone.[/SIZE]

**CLAVEL3699** · January 29th, 2010 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by emersonc

[SIZE=2]kung ako kuhanan nang picture na nakalabas na baril ko, ipuputok ko na yun kasi pareho lang din ang kaso kung meron man.
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[SIZE=2][SIZE=2]>[/SIZE]naku paps sana wala kang baril. dahil kung meron malamang may masasaktan sooner or later kung ganyan ang attitude mo. at iba paps ang kaso ng pagpapakita ng baril vs pamamaril (lalo na kung may nasaktan o namatay).

ano nangyari dun? wala din naman dba. natatawa pa ngayon yun kasi wala din naman nangyari dun sa pinagsasabi nya
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[SIZE=2]>again, at least madami ang nakakaalam. deterent din itong mga forums na ito kahit papaano. kung may kaso, well and good. pero kasi ung mga ganitong forms of media, may silbi pa din. kung well informed ang tao, at least maiiwasan na at wala ng confrontation. kasi kung di ko alam ito, di din ito malalaman ng mga mahal ko sa buhay. again, pag informed ang isang tao, may chance sya na umiwas.[/SIZE]

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tried to do something? katulad nang pumutak lang pero wala naman ginawa para matapos?

[SIZE=2]> "tried to do something" is subjective. you have your own ways, others have them too.[/SIZE]

hindi ko risk sarili ko sa pagkuha nang picture kasi baka pagkuha ko nang picture may tendency na mas provoke ko pa yun lalo na barilin ako.

> tama ka. i respect that. pero at some point, this culture of impunity has to stop. kasi para sa akin (and i hope you respect my opinion) kapag may mali, dapat itama. hindi ung pababayaan na lang kasi "di naman ako affected" or "ayoko mabaril". and i totally agree with you na mahirap i-risk ang buhay lalo na kung pamilyado ang isang tao. pero at some point in our lives, we have to accept that we must stand up for what is right no matter what the price will be. otherwise, we will belong to the dogs. call me optimistic or idealistic, but we have to be positive in more ways than one.

we don't know kung sino mali at tama sa kanila. baka pareho sila mali kaya nagawa nung manong trooper
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[SIZE=2]>i have to agree with you on this. kasi di din naman natin alam kung paano ung paraan ng "pagpapaliwanag" ni mr. civic. maari kasi na si manong trooper eh threatened at that time[/SIZE]

so moral of the story
1. keep a cool head at all times. be rational. think multiple times before doing anything.
2. magbigayan. kung ginigipit ka - ikaw magbigay. kung ikaw may right of way at siningitan ka - magbigay ka pa din. and hope and pray that other people will be infected by this "bigayan virus"
3. kung mali, don't perpetuate at itama agad. again, maraming channels and avenues to do something that is right and this includes ways wherein you do not risk your life. be creative and find out.

PEACE brother.

happy motoring everyone.[/SIZE]

pagnaglabas ka nang baril at parang itinututok mo. pwede ka kasuhan nang frustrated murder... tama ba ako guys?

pagnakabaril ka murder naman yun? kaya sumatotal, kulong ka pa din kaya iputok mo na lang... sabi nga ni eddie garcia kung bubunutin mo yan siguraduhin mo lang na kaya mo iputok dahil parehas lang yan ( at walang buhay na tistego, sabi nga nang kakilala ko na hired killer )

Pag kumuha ka nang picture is a risk of life... pareho nung dun sa isang thread na may dalang armalite ata yun nasa benz, takot sila kumuha nang picture kasi baka sila putukan.

Tama ba ako?

Note: Saka nga pala totoy may baril ako at dinadala ko din sa car pero kahit kailan hindi ko eto inilabas kasi wala naman threat sa buhay ko or sa pamilya ko... kahit minsan may mga gago sa kalye hanggang asaran lang ginagawa ko ( busina lang katapat nila or peso na tumataginting or kailangan lang talaga magpasensya kasi wala naman mangyayari na maganda).

**emersonc** · January 29th, 2010 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699

pagnaglabas ka nang baril at parang itinututok mo. pwede ka kasuhan nang frustrated murder... tama ba ako guys?

pagnakabaril ka murder naman yun? kaya sumatotal, kulong ka pa din kaya iputok mo na lang... sabi nga ni eddie garcia kung bubunutin mo yan siguraduhin mo lang na kaya mo iputok dahil parehas lang yan ( at walang buhay na tistego, sabi nga nang kakilala ko na hired killer )

Pag kumuha ka nang picture is a risk of life... pareho nung dun sa isang thread na may dalang armalite ata yun nasa benz, takot sila kumuha nang picture kasi baka sila putukan.

Tama ba ako?

Note: Saka nga pala may baril ako at dinadala ko din sa car pero kahit kailan hindi ko eto inilabas kasi wala naman threat sa buhay ko or sa pamilya ko... kahit minsan may mga gago sa kalye hanggang asaran lang ginagawa ko ( busina lang katapat nila or peso na tumataginting or kailangan lang talaga magpasensya kasi wala naman mangyayari na maganda).

based on your posts, you are bent on pulling the trigger kung sakaling ilabas mo baril mo. in this case, i sincerely hope and pray na wala kang maka-encounter na tao that would make you feel threatened or ma-interpret mo that he/she is a threat.

may kilala kang hired killer? seriously? naku, wag mo akong ipapatumba ha...

naku paps ang hirap ng situation mo... kasi kung ako ung nasa lugar mo at alam ko na hired killer sya pero wala ako ebidensya, sa tingin ko wala ako masyado magagawa. pero kung may evidence ako... hmmm, i have to admit... di ko pa masyado alam kung anong gagawin ko. sorry mods, medyo OT po.

**xtremerider** · January 29th, 2010 10:02 AM

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so moral of the story
1. keep a cool head at all times. be rational. think multiple times before doing anything.
2. magbigayan. kung ginigipit ka - ikaw magbigay. kung ikaw may right of way at siningitan ka - magbigay ka pa din. and hope and pray that other people will be infected by this "bigayan virus"
3. kung mali, don't perpetuate at itama agad. again, maraming channels and avenues to do something that is right and this includes ways wherein you do not risk your life. be creative and find out.

PEACE brother.

happy motoring everyone.

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+1000 ako dito...wala naman kseng mababawasan kung gagawin natin ito...

**CLAVEL3699** · January 29th, 2010 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by emersonc

based on your posts, you are bent on pulling the trigger kung sakaling ilabas mo baril mo. in this case, i sincerely hope and pray na wala kang maka-encounter na tao that would make you feel threatened or ma-interpret mo that he/she is a threat.

may kilala kang hired killer? seriously? naku, wag mo akong ipapatumba ha...

naku paps ang hirap ng situation mo... kasi kung ako ung nasa lugar mo at alam ko na hired killer sya pero wala ako ebidensya, sa tingin ko wala ako masyado magagawa. pero kung may evidence ako... hmmm, i have to admit... di ko pa masyado alam kung anong gagawin ko. sorry mods, medyo OT po.

ha? anong mahirap sa situation ko? I know him personally at bakit ko sya ipapahuli... kababata ko sya sabay kami tumanda at naging maging magkaibigan kahit magkaiba kami nang buhay at hindi ko sya masisi dahil wala ako sa posisyon kung bakit sya napunta sa ganung buhay.

Nalaman ko lang na hired killer sya one time na may nakaaway mother ko at pinamumura/nasaktan - 18 yrs old pa lang kami nun ( isang nagsisigaan sa lugar namin sa manila / halang ang bituka nung tao na eto )... balak ko kasi na gantihan yung may gawa pero kinabukasan nalaman ko na lang na pinatay yung nakaaway nang mother ko at sinabi nya sa akin yun.

threat ay hindi isang bagay na nararamdaman lang or you just interpret it. Its an ACT with physical violence,totoy.

**xtremerider** · January 29th, 2010 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699

ha? anong mahirap sa situation ko? I know him personally at bakit ko sya ipapahuli... kababata ko sya sabay kami tumanda at naging maging magkaibigan kahit magkaiba kami nang buhay at hindi ko sya masisi dahil wala ako sa posisyon kung bakit sya napunta sa ganung buhay.

Nalaman ko lang na hired killer sya one time na may nakaaway mother ko at pinamumura/nasaktan - 18 yrs old pa lang kami nun ( isang nagsisigaan sa lugar namin sa manila / halang ang bituka nung tao na eto )... balak ko kasi na gantihan yung may gawa pero kinabukasan nalaman ko na lang na pinatay yung nakaaway nang mother ko at sinabi nya sa akin yun.

threat ay hindi isang bagay na nararamdaman lang or you just interpret it. Its an ACT with physical violence,totoy.

* CLAVEL3699...

Easy lang brader...napag uusapan lang naman, may mga bagay kse na di kayang intindihin ng iba na naiintindihan natin. :cheers: A bottle of ice cold beer will do just fine...

**emersonc** · January 29th, 2010 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699

ha? anong mahirap sa situation ko? I know him personally at bakit ko sya ipapahuli... kababata ko sya sabay kami tumanda at naging maging magkaibigan kahit magkaiba kami nang buhay at hindi ko sya masisi dahil wala ako sa posisyon kung bakit sya napunta sa ganung buhay.

Nalaman ko lang na hired killer sya one time na may nakaaway mother ko at pinamumura/nasaktan - 18 yrs old pa lang kami nun ( isang nagsisigaan sa lugar namin sa manila / halang ang bituka nung tao na eto )... balak ko kasi na gantihan yung may gawa pero kinabukasan nalaman ko na lang na pinatay yung nakaaway nang mother ko at sinabi nya sa akin yun.

threat ay hindi isang bagay na nararamdaman lang or you just interpret it. Its an ACT with physical violence,totoy.

ok sige po. i get your point. for sure madaming natutunan mga readers ng thread na ito. signing off na po.

**CLAVEL3699** · January 29th, 2010 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by xtremerider

* CLAVEL3699...

Easy lang brader...napag uusapan lang naman, may mga bagay kse na di kayang intindihin ng iba na naiintindihan natin. :cheers: A bottle of ice cold beer will do just fine...

ngek... hindi ako nainom eh...

OT na bro...

**Monseratto** · January 29th, 2010 10:39 AM

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**MrGunn** · January 31st, 2010 06:42 PM

The PNP may file a case against the gun toter. He is, after all, in violation of the enforced gun ban. The pics are enough evidence to support gun ban violation which would result in old guy's license revocation to own firearms as well as possibly jail time.

If the complainant files a case, it will be mild threats, since the perp did not point the gun at him. If the gun was directly pointed at the cameraman, then it is grave threats, NOT frustrated murder.

These are the only things the complainant can file against the perp, even if the case seems to have blown out in a huge way due to the internet.

Hope this clarifies the issue a bit.