Pinoy Utility Vehicle Bibili ba kau?

[OyiL]

*OyiL,

I think it is best we try to set-up an eb among those interested - even just 3 - 5 guys - and really discuss how far we want to take this project and what approach we will take.

Let us try to find a common convenient time and place. I am based in San Juan. My schedule is fluid and availability depends on project deadlines but I am usually free Sundays except lunchtime.

*architect

i'm based overseas. who will be writing the minutes? would it be okay to post the meeting minutes here if ever it takes place?

[OyiL]

Just my comments, if I were to design one, I'll do an electric motor car instead. I'll go for lesser pollution...

Francisco Motors have an electric jeepney. they are not selling it now. maybe in the future if batteries and electric motors become cheap enough.

[OyiL]

some sketches i made while i was on the train this evening.
side view:

front view:

[architect]

*OyiL

Sorry I wasn't aware you are based overseas. If and when meeting pushes through, will make sure to post minutes.

BTW, where are you based?

[OyiL]

*architect

thanks.

im based in singapore. working as a sw test engineer for a german company making medical instruments.

[dprox]

Hi OyiL. In the practice of architecture, unsolicited criticism of a colleague's project is considered unethical. So, I'm honored by your invitation to comment on your design. But give me time to pick up your design process/thread from the start. As you might know, design is a complex and winding process of accumulated decisions based on criteria, assumptions, and circumstances surrounding the project. Give me maybe a week to read your posts here and in other forums (I found you in autoindustriya and skyscrapercity). I would like to know where you are coming from and where you really want to go. It would be unfair to you if I commented on appearances without basis, di ba? Then I will reply to you -- privately.
[Siyangapala, baka we need to start a separate thread, kasi we're already talking about designing a vehicle, when this thread is only asking kung "bibili ba kau?"]
Offhand I really think the best thing I can share with you are my mistakes, the challenges, temptations, dead ends and frustrations in pushing my DPROX project (I recounted some of them in a presentation I delivered to the Phil. Sociological Society -- http://www.disenyopilipino.ph/filipi...ymposium.html). I don't want to sound like I've "been-there-done-that", but as every designer knows, unless you are at the point of obsession about your design, you are not serious. OyiL, from what I've read so far, you and Singapore-based architect (include hitomi, drey, etc) are dead serious and highly motivated.
That is why I think we really need to EB and to observe a bit of industrial discretion about your project. Our "league of extraordinary gentlemen" will come across as a threat to other parties, mostly foreign, who do not relish competition from natives, and who have their own vested ideas on job creation and profits.
I am based (ironically) in Sta Rosa, Laguna -- yup, the "Detroit of the Philippines" -- but I vehemently abhor being an employee, and certainly not of any foreign automaker. I am currently self-employed and consider myself a freelance automotive designer.
Let's EB, get to know one another, see exactly how concurrent or divergent our backgrounds and design paradigms are, and decide from there the extent of our collaboration. We should bare where our loyalties lay. Then we can determine whether we will work jointly, or cooperatively, or autonomously of each other.
Am I serious? You bet I am.
MABUHAY TAYONG LAHAT.
DPROX

PS:
For forum members who are interested in automotive design, there are two must-read books to start with:
"Design Cars Like a Pro" by Tony Lewin
"American Car Design Now" by C.Edson Armi
You might find them in PowerBooks stores or at Fully Booked in Rockwell. NBS is not too big on bona fide auto design books. They help you get into the auto design mindset.

BTW, if anyone has seen an uncommon gold and silver-gray double-cab pickup with side markings like the ones below, then you've seen my prototype and the markings tell you where I'm coming from.

[dprox]

:sorry: Ooops, sorry for the crossread.
Si OyiL pala overseas, and si architect pala ang San Juan.
OyiL, kelan ka sa Pinas?
If it's alright with you, can we defer to architect to call the EB.
Fluid din ang sked ko.
DPROX

[OyiL]

*dprox

no problem..just let me and everybody interested to know the progress via posting the minutes.

i go home once a year, if project schedule and extra money permits a long absence.

[dprox]

OyiL,
You're the one that brought this issue to critical mass in this forum, so, you're a key player here.
But considering his seniority in Tsikot, the ball is now in architect's court.
All interested parties should now manifest their intention to join the EB.
I'm not calling out names, but I can sense that some forum members are raring to go. :kick: A truly Filipino auto design group or "studio" is 30 years overdue. Like what all good mechanics say: Mahahanapan natin ng paraan yan!
O ano? Be counted. Sakay na, and let's get rolling! :meeting::meeting:
DPROX

[dprox]

OyiL,
You're the one that brought this issue to critical mass in this forum, so, you're a key player here.
But considering his seniority in Tsikot, the ball is now in architect's court.
All interested parties should now manifest their intention to join the EB.
I'm not calling out names, but I can sense that some forum members are raring to go. :kick::kick::kick:
A truly Filipino auto design group or "studio" is 30 years overdue. It's about time!
Like what all good pinoy automechanics say: Mahahanapan natin ng paraan yan!
O ano? Be counted. Sakay na, and let's get rolling! :meeting::meeting:
DPROX