Cars you can't count on

[ILuvDetailing]

yung biyenan ng officemate ko meron bmw sedan 5 series.. twice na daw tumirik sa daan due to computer failure.. windows daw pala OS.. kahit daw ipa-reboot ng bmw ayaw pa din.. ayun ni-tow..

May bugs pa. I wouldn't want to be in that persons possision, imagine Bimmer dala mo tapos tinotow lang ouch! Buti walang bumato ng posporo sa kanila.

[squala]

Iba-iba naman yung mga sinasabi ng survey eh. In the case of BMW, others say their cars are becoming more reliable, while to some they're not. I'm also surprised that many of the less reliable cars are Volkswagen. That alone contradicts the meaning of their brand, which is "People's Car."

Nevertheless, no such various findings for Toyota and Honda. In other words, they are very dependable.

[empy]

the one thing about consumer reports is that they basically assume everyone thinks cars are appliances. so, they focus on reliability, crash tests, service quality, and nothing else.

car enthusiasts care about that stuff, but they also care about the driving experience, performance, and aesthetics. therefore, CR should only be one of many sources that people should use when evaluating a car purchase.

[sikuya]

the one thing about consumer reports is that they basically assume everyone thinks cars are appliances. so, they focus on reliability, crash tests, service quality, and nothing else.

car enthusiasts care about that stuff, but they also care about the driving experience, performance, and aesthetics. therefore, CR should only be one of many sources that people should use when evaluating a car purchase.

point taken.CR should just stick with appliances and stuff.but trouble is, too many people listen to them and actually consider them as their "bible" before buying stuffs like cars.they're very influential.

[empy]

point taken.CR should just stick with appliances and stuff.but trouble is, too many people listen to them and actually consider them as their "bible" before buying stuffs like cars.they're very influential.

oh, absolutely. they are influential because many people do think cars as appliances. we car enthusiasts are the minority

[mazdamazda]

the one thing about consumer reports is that they basically assume everyone thinks cars are appliances. so, they focus on reliability, crash tests, service quality, and nothing else.

car enthusiasts care about that stuff, but they also care about the driving experience, performance, and aesthetics. therefore, CR should only be one of many sources that people should use when evaluating a car purchase.

well said...

like C&D's long-term Jag XJ, they've acknowledged that it spent quite sometime being serviced but it was still the preferred long-distance hauler among their staff.

maybe they should also look at the demographics & driving-styles of the said "consumers". maybe some of them are the ones who floors the gas & turn the airconditioner to full a second after starting the engine? or the ones who use those funky additives like motor-up? or the ones who skip PMS? or the ones who use low octane fuel?

[the_wildthing]

Yan ang problema pag survey-survey lang. Di natin sure kung ano talagang ginagawa ng mga "consumers" na respondents... Mas maganda kung mga long term reports from testers talaga, who follow maintenance schedules and proper usage.

[empy]

Yan ang problema pag survey-survey lang. Di natin sure kung ano talagang ginagawa ng mga "consumers" na respondents... Mas maganda kung mga long term reports from testers talaga, who follow maintenance schedules and proper usage.

age-old dilemma nga yan ng market research - do you use controlled testing to find out the effectiveness of the product, or do you just put it in the hands of the 'average' user and see what their feedback is?

i would say the answer is, use both.

btw, to mazdamazda's point, US drivers really abuse and neglect their cars...automakers really need to build to the lowest common denominator to be successful in this market

[boydapa]

ewan ko lng ah pero i think parang appliance naman ksi ang oto sa ibang bansa eh na madalas palitan. di katulad sa atin na parang kapamilya ang oto , na pinapalaki at binibihisan pa..

meron me past issues and i think very informative sya ksi meron syang detailed(rated) checklist ng mga madaling masira sa isang brand at model. yan din yun nagsabi na yun pajero, montero ay madaling tumaob kaya ang rating poor o reject kaagad

[zero]

no daewoo cars mentioned?